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Title: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: menusux on December 25, 2009, 10:54:49 AM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-sp.nflnotes24dec24,0,2834391.story

Baltimore Sun December 24, 2009

Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Teammates honor Eagle for courage, sportsmanship

"Vick won the Ed Block Courage Award, voted on by his teammates on the Philadelphia Eagles.

"The Ed Block Award, named for the longtime athletic trainer of the Baltimore Colts, honors players who exemplify commitment to the principles of sportsmanship and courage. All 32 NFL teams select a recipient, and each winner will be honored at an awards ceremony in Baltimore on March 9."

IMHO, really courageous men fight their own battles--they don't train dogs to fight them, nor do they execute them.  >:(




Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: macush on December 25, 2009, 11:08:13 AM
"for everything he's been through!!!"  I am, to put it mildly, furious.  Wish I could attend that dinner.  And I hope the Phil Eagles fall through a hole in the earth.  I bet Ed Block is turning over in his grave.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: catmom5 on December 25, 2009, 11:24:17 AM
 >:( >:( >:(
. . . doesn't take any courage to torture and kill innocent animals. MV is a lousy excuse for a human being and those players who voted for him are no better. There's an interesting conversation on Pet Connection about just this topic. What a message to send to all those kids, too. Just unbelievable!!!
catmom5


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: JJ on December 25, 2009, 11:44:51 AM
For all animal abusers/torturers/executioners etc. Their license plate frames should all say: I Abuse and Hurt animals. And maybe have it on their driver's license's too.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: Meowli on December 25, 2009, 12:14:06 PM
I am just speechless. And I thought that nothing could surprise me anymore. 

Meowli


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: tesla on December 25, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
Unbelieveable......disgusting.....disheartening....I will never be able to forgive him or believe him and his claims of remorse, I feel all he's remorseful for is that he got caught.  This just makes it worse. >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: catwoods on December 25, 2009, 09:41:26 PM
I just don't get it ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: mainecoonpeg on December 26, 2009, 01:32:47 PM
Gag me with a spoon................ :P


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 26, 2009, 05:05:25 PM
What always surprises me is the failure to recognize the well documented connection between major psychoses (antisocial behavior) and animal abuse that seems to predispose one to harm other humans, too -- ahhh, maybe that's why NFL players can't see it


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: catbird on December 26, 2009, 07:17:29 PM
What always surprises me is the failure to recognize the well documented connection between major psychoses (antisocial behavior) and animal abuse that seems to predispose one to harm other humans, too -- ahhh, maybe that's why NFL players can't see it

Yup.  Maybe it's all that brain damage from all those hard hits that makes the NFL players do things like this.  >:( 


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: wicked fate on December 26, 2009, 09:12:03 PM
I don't even have words for how disgusting and awful this is.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: JJ on December 26, 2009, 10:26:52 PM
Hard hits make someone be cruel to animals? Then every football player would be an animal abuser? Even the kids on school football teams?

I think the concentration should be on this ilk of a (can't even bring myself to use the word man) scum bag that does wrong and gets rewarded for it. Seems to be the rule now - the more hideous of a wrong you do the bigger the reward we will heap on you. How disgusting they all are that participated in and enjoyed giving this reward to anyone who does wrong and instead of punishment get a 'atta boy, good job. Here's our saying its ok, go ahead and do it again, can't wait to think up an even bigger reward next time you do bad."


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: lesliek on December 27, 2009, 07:16:46 AM
Heres a comment by a copy editor in our local paper the Burlington County Times; "Michael Vick won the Ed Block Courage award,voted on by his teammates on the Philadelphia Eagles. I guess he is courageous- he could have been bitten by all those dogs he was murdering." He followed it the next day with this; "This has been a terrible week for me. We got a huge snowstorm. I got ousted from my fanasy football playoffs and one of my favorite actresses , Brittany Murphy died. Oh well, at least Michael Vick suffered a minor injury."
 I loke Joe Mason [author of above] as well as all the comments that have been made by other BCT editors on the front page newsbreak section. They are all pet parents and not Vick fans !


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: catbird on December 27, 2009, 07:26:06 AM
What I was saying is that brain damage is the only thing that could explain approving of Michael Vick.  Certainly no normal person, playing with a full deck, would approve of him.

Vick is lower than scum!

(And yes, NFL players do have a lot of brain damage.  And high school players can, too.  There is a former NFL player, forget his name, who goes to high schools and speaks about  the need to be do things right in playing football, to avoid ending up like he is, later in life.)


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 27, 2009, 10:19:04 AM
Down, JJ. Just sayin' people who play aggressive, high-contact "sports" are already abusing themselves to some degree. So may not
view animal abuse in same light I do. At NFL level, could be all those nasty steroids.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: JJ on December 27, 2009, 01:34:43 PM
catbird now that you put it in those terms (sorry for my not connecting this) as far as people having some type of brain damage (or lack of a brain) to give rewards to those who do bad and encourage this type of behavior by rewarding it.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: catbird on December 27, 2009, 03:14:05 PM
Agree, 3cat.  And note the high rate of domestic abuse among NFL players as well.  It's all connected.  So many of them are pumped up on steroids, have their brains half knocked out, and feel that to show how "manly" they are, they can hurt innocent people and animals.

Many people who repeatedly hurt others, and are no longer capable of self-control, are locked away in forensic mental units.  In the NFL, however, it seems they are rewarded. >:(

I'd really like to see a group of NFL players speak out against this award being given to Vick.  Otherwise I think a lot of people might just choose to boycott the NFL altogether, not just the Eagles.  Are you listening, NFL money people?  We don't like awards going to abusers!


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: Sandi K on December 27, 2009, 03:42:19 PM
Were there really no other players truly deserving of this Ed Block Courage award? If its true that no other player qualified for this other than Vick, it doesnt say alot for the NFL players nowadays.  Sad state of affairs when teammates will give such an award because they feel sorry for him?  I mean WTF....these guys are not living in reality.  They are all being given too much money, too much fame, too much importance.  The right thing for them to have done was step forward and speak out that what Vick did was wrong and not put this guy up on an sort of pedestle but when it comes down to it, even though these guys act all tough and macho, they are a bunch of wimps for condoning what Vick did.   :P  None of them deserve even a fraction of what they are getting paid.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: menusux on December 27, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
Here's a real spoon gag:

http://www.edblock.org/

"The Ed Block Courage Award Foundation is dedicated to improving the lives of neglected children and ending the cycle of abuse.  The purpose is to raise Awareness and Prevention of child abuse.  That objective is coupled with the Foundation's commitment to celebrating players of inspiration in the NFL."

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???



Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: JJ on December 27, 2009, 04:46:42 PM
This organization is affiliated with the NFL and they help them raise $$$$$$ to help in the fight against CHILD ABUSE. So this scum was an inspiration for what exactly? Why was this given to such a low life, arrrgghhhh!


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 28, 2009, 08:17:10 AM
We're probably all busted as not being big time aggressive sports fans anyway, guys. So the two points of view
probably don't make much sense to each other. My bloodlust gene is pretty much lacking or dormant or something.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: catwoods on December 28, 2009, 01:22:53 PM
3cat, I've never even been to a football game, or any other sporting event. I'm sure you are right, because of that, the sports world wouldn't be interested in my viewpoint. I am aware though, that these players are role models for young people, whether they should be, or not, that's just the way it works. Since I share the planet with those young folks, I feel that gives me a right to have a say in who the sports world honors with awards.

I feel the sports world has a responsibility to everyone, to choose wisely when giving out honors.

Sandi, good point about others who are much more deserving of this. I read the Pet Connection article and comments (thanks go to Catmom5 for pointing that out) and someone mentioned an individual who is much more deserving of this award, as near as I can tell. I am unfamiliar with any of the players since I don't follow football. But this person appears to me to be doing many positive things, in many ways.

That makes it all the more puzzling, because there are better choices out there for this award.

It all has me very upset.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 28, 2009, 03:13:59 PM
I sure agree that Michael Vick doesn't deserve this kind of award and wish the NFL had chosen differently, too, catwoods. You're absolutely
right to be upset. A lot of us are and have been since the Eagles rehired the jerk.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: lesliek on December 28, 2009, 04:38:51 PM
I used to be a big football fan. Before they let Vick back in.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: catwoods on December 28, 2009, 05:17:16 PM
I hadn't thought about it before, but that's another unfair, sad consequence of the lousy decisions made regarding Vick. People who like football can't enjoy it any more. Good for you, Leslie! I hope whoever makes these decisions takes note of the fact that fans are disgusted and will turn away.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: JJ on December 28, 2009, 06:10:20 PM
Maybe they won't give him another contract. Anyone going to see this grease spot play is contributing to the award and going along with those who gave it as condoning what he did and looking the other way. Animal abuser = people abuser.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: lesliek on December 29, 2009, 07:19:55 AM
All the local sportswriters think they are getting him ready to sign somewhere as a starting qb. Doesn't look like I'll be watching or playing pools anytime soon !


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: JJ on December 29, 2009, 06:20:36 PM
Now I'm going to be sick. Reward of the most highest - make this ilk the leader of the whole team - arrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhh!


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: 3catkidneyfailure on December 30, 2009, 06:45:17 AM
I'm just not a fan of "violent" sports. Tennis, golf, running, gymnastics - those
are performance sports based on individual achievement. I get those. Even
baseball - they're not trying to hurt each other. Violence, on video games,
on the football field, begets violence I think. But I know there are a lot of
contact sport fans. I just don't get it personally. And I actually had someone
in my family play for the Broncos a number of years back. I still don't get it.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: caylee on December 30, 2009, 10:31:21 AM
This relates to the mistreatment of humans mentioned up thread.

CNN Breaking News:
-- Texas Tech fires coach Mike Leach after accusations he mistreated an injured player, The Associated Press reports.


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: Mandycat on January 03, 2010, 09:24:30 PM
This is not an NFL award.  It is an award sponsored by a charitable organization and EACH NFL team votes for one player on their own team to get the award.  I am appalled that Vick received the votes for this award from his team-mates, but it is not a reflection of the NFL as a whole, and the Ed Block Courage Award people have tried to distance themselves from this choice.  It will be interesting to see if Vick comes to Baltimore to receive the award.  I know he was "uninvited" from a speaking engagement for the Humane Society here in Baltimore a while back, but I can't remember who it was that initiated that action.  Obviously, though, he is not particularly welcome in this town!   ::)


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Post by: Mandycat on January 03, 2010, 11:14:00 PM
Down, JJ. Just sayin' people who play aggressive, high-contact "sports" are already abusing themselves to some degree. So may not
view animal abuse in same light I do. At NFL level, could be all those nasty steroids.


Though it is true that sports like football result in lots of bodily abuse from the contact, to my knowledge, steroids have not been an issue in the NFL.  There have been some players who have been caught using other illegal drugs, but they have been punished harshly for doing so.  The NFL has some strong disciplinary measures when it comes to illegal drug use. 


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award-Petition To Deny Award
Post by: menusux on January 06, 2010, 05:57:50 PM
Copying Leslie's original post-Re: petition to deny michael vick the award

petconnection has a link to the petition & an article about it. http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2010/01/06/effort-underway-to-deny-vick-the-ed-block-courage-award/ (http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2010/01/06/effort-underway-to-deny-vick-the-ed-block-courage-award/)


Title: Re: Eagles' Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award-Petition To Deny Award
Post by: menusux on January 06, 2010, 05:59:20 PM
http://animalrights.change.org/actions/view/petition_against_awarding_michael_vick_the_ed_block_courage_award# (http://animalrights.change.org/actions/view/petition_against_awarding_michael_vick_the_ed_block_courage_award#)

Here's a direct link to the petition.