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Title: any tricks for meds?
Post by: catmom5 on December 20, 2009, 06:55:20 AM
My problem child #2, Jess, has progressive heart disease and takes several medications - Sotalol, Plavix, Enalapril and now the cardiologist wants me to add Omega 3 oils and taurine. The first few times I was able to add the oil and taurine to his wet food and he thought that was great. Not so much any more. His appetite is decreasing and I'm having trouble convincing him to eat any wet, much less with the "extras". Any thoughts? experiences?
I know our time is limited, but want to do all I can to keep him with me (and feeling okay) as long as I can.
Thanks
catmom5


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: lesliek on December 20, 2009, 07:13:53 AM
Have you tried mixing it with a little meat broth or fish juice ? You could syringe it into Jess if he won't eat the food with it .


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: bug on December 20, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
You know, that was really difficult for me as well when I was caring for Bones. The omegas or salmon oil just wasn't something he liked. I just wound up not giving it to him because I wanted him to enjoy his food. Jess is already on Plavix and the omegas will just thin his blood out more. It's more important that Bones was eating than for me to cram as many things that might help into him. He already didn't like the atenolol and aspirin. Any more would have really made him upset. Looking back on my decision, I'm glad I made that choice so he could eat the food he loved so much.


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: alek0 on December 20, 2009, 07:29:49 PM
Can you find canned wild salmon for humans with no salt added or at least low salt version? I've had more luck with that than with any omega 3 supplements, I tried salmon oil, sardine oil, etc.


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: petslave on December 20, 2009, 11:43:27 PM
Sorry to hear Jess is losing his appetite.  I think the taurine doesn't have much flavor, so maybe you can continue to add that to whatever he will eat.  The canned salmon is a good idea, both for the omegas and used to boost the flavor of canned food.  I found unsalted at the natural food co-op, but it ain't cheap!  Might be worth a try.


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: bug on December 21, 2009, 06:39:16 AM
If you're looking at using canned salmon, I don't know if it's available to you but I use Raincoast Trading no salt sockeye or pink salmon:

http://www.raincoasttrading.com/


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: Mark T on December 21, 2009, 07:11:37 AM
We have similar challenges with our senior kitty who has hyperthyroidism. I simply poke a small hole in the end of a fish oil capsule and squirt a little into the side of her mouth. She tolerates this well especially since we only do it 3 times a week.

To stimulate appetite I pour a little * vitamin B complex into a syringe, add a cc or two of water and give that to her once a day. This has an amazing effect on her overall vitality and appetite. I have to think that she is not assimilating enough from her wet food.  Within an hour she is asking for food, works every time, though this may be a quirk attributable to her only. But it cannot hurt to try.

*"little" can be calculated fairly accurately. Without a scale that measures mgs, I once poured out a capsule of B, then progressively subdivided it until I could practically see what the RDA weight amount looked like.


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: Spartycats on December 21, 2009, 07:13:36 AM
Do you think Jess would eat salmon treats?

http://www.entirelypets.com/grizzlyfillettreats3oz.html (http://www.entirelypets.com/grizzlyfillettreats3oz.html)


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: catbird on December 21, 2009, 07:28:32 AM
Good suggestion, spartycats!  That's how I get salmon oil into my kitties, too, who won't eat anything with salmon oil added.  I use Bravo freeze-dried salmon treats, but these Grizzly ones look like they might be a little less expensive per oz, unless the shipping adds significantly to the cost. 

There seem to be a lot of visible health benefits for my cats in eating the salmon treats--good coats, bright eyes, and I swear that it seems to reduce Cameo's asthma.  I even give it to them to prevent constipation, or to relieve constipation if they seem to have drier stools; I give them an extra helping and the benefits are noted within a day or so.

(Of course, Linley can't eat them.)


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: JJ on January 04, 2010, 08:07:58 PM
catbird I have bought the Grizzly salmon at Petco for Foxy Lady to have as a treat a couple of times a year. Hopefully you have a Petco where you live as it would save shipping costs.


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: catbird on January 05, 2010, 06:35:38 AM
Sigh, JJ, we don't have a Petco franchise here.  I'll keep looking in some other stores as I get there, though.

I did a little reading up on the topic of fish oils/salmon oil.  Turns out I'm not hallucinating when I think eating the salmon treats helps control Cameo's asthma!  The Omega 3 fatty acids in fish oil are powerful anti-inflammatories.  Interestingly, I also read that Omega 3s have reduced cardiac arrhythmias in some studies (of humans.)  Maybe I'm not hallucinating when I think that diet changes are what helped Isis' heart (damaged by melamine) either!


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: mainecoonpeg on January 05, 2010, 12:41:34 PM
A little off topic, but catbird, fishoils do wonders for asthmatics, people with emphysema, chronic bronchitis or just plain bronchitis.  Those with pneumonia also showed significant shortened recoveries.

My friend was diagnosed 10 years ago, after being hospitalized with a serious case of asthma.  She has been on fishoil, 6 grams, for 18 months now and is off her steroids and does not need to use her inhaler.  She is doing this all with approval and under supervision of her doctor.

Pugsley was diagnosed with asthma in August.  He had a severe negative reaction to prednisilone.
He is on fish oil and the last set of chest films a week ago look amazing.  Angel vet is trying fishoil first for all her kitty patients.


Title: Re: any tricks for meds?
Post by: JJ on January 05, 2010, 09:39:05 PM
catbird no do not think your trippin' when finding info on the omega 3's from fish oils (as one source) that can do wonders. Diet changes bring about a natural healing process, whereas pills/powders/shots sometimes just mask the problem and never really get to the root of the issue affecting the pet, or as peg put it, the human.