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« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2007, 07:28:52 PM »

Awww, poor CJ.  Hope she feels better very soon.  C'mon Jess, leave CJ alone.

Mine seem to have a lot of problems with antibiotics, too.  I dunno.

We'll keep CJ, catmom5, and naughty Jess in my prayers.
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« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2007, 09:14:26 PM »

Clavamox can be very hard on a lot of kitties it caused exploding poop in mine.  Can you switch to Zeniquin?  Tastes nasty but not so hard on the tummy.
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« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2007, 05:28:24 AM »

CJ sees the clinic vet this morning so we'll see what s/he has to say.  Don't know who I will see since our regular vet is out of the country. She will, for sure, NOT be taking any more Clavamox.  Thanks, ranger, for the information.
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« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2007, 10:07:07 PM »

catmom we need a nutritionist on this forum. Someone to advise whats in pet food so we can find the equivalent in human food and mix it up for the pet when the vet recommends a food that makes a pet owner uneasy but like you said they have to eat. If anyone knows how to get a breakdown in equivalent amounts for human food comparing it to the pet food sick animals are needed to eat, please post that link or ideas to help those pet parents out here.

Will say a big prayer for your  lil baby. Take care.
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« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2007, 11:02:55 PM »

catmom5,

How's CJ doing?

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« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2007, 10:34:36 AM »

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I am not a cat nutritionist but in my house the kitchen is the medicine cabinet of first resort. Even so, I am forgetful and make mistakes that end up in the garbage (food, not cats!) Anyway I keep at it. I did a lot of research on this earlier this year, and am about 20 posts behind on my cat's blog - where I post my home cooking revelations - I am home cooking 50% of both kitties meals... they always have a bowl of two types of no grain kibble to supplement, as I know it will take me an entire year to get it right, to where they can rely on my meals only... that's OK.

First, almost every site out there on how to make cat food, is about how to make RAW cat food. [Interesting that even raw their recipes always add supplements, what's that all about? either they get everything from raw or not. Hellooo.] But then there is this one:

http://www.stretcher.com/stories/03/03jan27a.cfm


The basic formula then for cooked and raw is simple (this btw is the route a lot of European pet owners take):

ANIMAL PROTEIN + SUPPLEMENTS + PREPARATION = HOME MADE CAT FOOD


Note: "Supplements" in US AAFCO mandated formulations also include 50% GRAIN. 50% is nuts but zero doesn't work for my cats either - over time.  Your feline grain mileage may also vary.

The first part is easy! The second part is the gotcha, but then I found pre-preared supplements like SOJO's, and of course my cat hates it. So I looked at the ingredients in SOJO's and started to buy each one... that's where I'm at.

Of course the third part, preparation is the real sticky part. That's why it's going to take me a year - right now, they insist on what I prepare as their first meal of the day... perhaps becuase they're so hungry.

[this morning was a shrimp meat day, and I peeled the cooked shrimp, leaving the tails on the counter-top while I took a phone call, the 3 mo/o jump-jetted onto the countertop and ate one entire shrimp tail ... then I thought perhaps I should grind a bit of the shrimp exo skeleton, lots of good natural stuff in that - in this way I take my cues from them...]

In the case of a sick cat with a prescription for a particular cat food brand, it's always about the supplements in that particular brand, the type of animal protein and the type of grain they use...

I looked at the Science Diet prescription formula and quite frankly, it isn't rocket science... they use a better quality of animal protein (duh!) i.e. turkey not chicken meal, liver (animal organ meat, a staple in home cooking), corn flour, rice flour and soy flour - INTERSTING, none of that wheat gluten corn meal  in their other ones - highest quality grain powders (rice and barley flour are what I add to bind my ingredients together) and the rest of the ingreeeds are vitamin cat supplement stuff you can BUY... a lot of human vitamin shops alos get a great deal of traffic about pet supplements, and have 800 numbers staffed with pet owners who are unbelievable fountains of knowledge... I posted some here back in the midst f the pet food scandal...

Anyway, to cut to the chase, why not just ask the vet "why that particular brand", what's in the formulation that makes it good. If he or she doesn't know, they he or she has some 'splaining to do about why they don't know why they are prescribing a particular food.
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« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2007, 11:17:50 AM »

Hope CJ is feeling better, what did the vet say?  Hoping you got to see a good one since yours is away.
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« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2007, 12:36:23 PM »

Sending good wishes for your kitty.
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« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2007, 02:01:39 PM »

Thank you all so much!  CJ's liver function tests came back good.  Even though some of the enzymes are elevated, her liver is functioning right now.  The clinic vet (actually another resident who happens to be a good friend of our wonderful clinic vet who is gone) spent a lot of time talking witih me (she had remembered CJ from her two previous hospitalizations).  We have decided to see how the urine culture comes back and then either put her on an antibiotic for a UTI or a liver support med.  At this time there's no reason to subject her to a liver biopsy.  I anticipated the worst and got nothing but good news.  So all of your healing thoughts and prayers have really helped.
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« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2007, 03:25:16 PM »

catmom5: Great news! Sending continued good thoughts.  Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2007, 04:30:35 PM »

That's wonderful.  Glad the vet spent some time with you.

All our best kitty wishes from Rocky, Spot, Anthony, Cleopatra, and Buster.

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« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2007, 09:20:12 PM »

CatMom5
I just finished reading the forum thread, and I so hope CJ is ok.  I don't
have a lot of information on what you're trying to treat, but can tell you
when one of my cats was having liver enzyme elevations, the vet put her
on something you can buy at the health food store, SamE, (Sam-E) and a short
time later, no problems. I'd sure like you to ask the vet first, though,
because I'm no expert.
Hugs and good wishes for CJ and you,
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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2007, 10:19:20 PM »

Yay CJ

Great news catmom5....still sending good wishes and prayers your way!!!!!
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« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2007, 10:54:00 PM »

I'm glad about your good news and sending continued warm wishes, purrs, and prayers.
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« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2007, 06:01:20 AM »

Thank you all.  CJ has an appointment this afternoon to see if the meds have helped the liver enzymes, and to recheck kidney values (ALWAYS!). I will definitely ask about the sam-e. Hoping for more good news, but will deal with whatever we find out.  We're almost to a year of her being poisoned by the pfi industry (Thanksgiving week last year) ~ so I'm just blessed that she's still with me.
She's been very grumpy this morning and hanging by my side ~ think she remembers that food picked up means a trip to the vet clinic.  She even smacked my boycat and then ran to me to protect her!  What a feisty old girl she is!!
(CJ stands for Calamity Jane ~ one of the first thing she did when she was adopted at 6 weeks was to race up the lace dining room curtains . . . )
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