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Author Topic: Sick Kitty - Gave pill and then vomited - Is it still in his system? more...  (Read 7347 times)
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« on: December 02, 2011, 02:53:00 PM »

I gave a dose of Flagyl to my cat and 35-40 min later he vomited.  Does anyone know if the pill got into his system?  Second question - Has anyone used a pain pill called Tramadol or does it have bad side effects.  My cat got an enema Wednesday night and now is sick (happened before but hes not eating this time).  He seems in pain - barely eats even though hes had cyprohep appetite stim.  He's been to the vet and she did an exam etc, fluids.  I've given  him every food (baby, turkey etc etc)possible and he eats very little and walks away. I'm afraid that him not eating hardly anything is going to hurt his liver.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 03:01:44 PM »

Sorry to hear your kitty is sick, cats8398.  With the time lapse between the pill and vomiting, it is possible that some was absorbed into his system, but depending upon the cause of the vomiting, it may not have been.  Had he been vomiting before this?

Was blood work checked at the vet visit?

I think some members have used Tramadol; I have no personal experience with it, so hopefully they will post.

Hope he feels better soon.  I'd leave at least 4 hours after the vomiting before trying to offer more food, maybe longer, to let his tummy settle..
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 03:08:31 PM »

He has bad reactions to enemas but this time is the worst.  They didn't do his blood because he was flipping out and they're doing it on Monday. He had bloodwork done a month ago and has early renal disease.  How long can a cat go without eating??
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 03:38:52 PM »

Another question.  Can  you give pepcid which  I 've never given to my kitty (hoping it will help with nausea) AND Flagyl at the same time?
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 04:27:39 PM »

I've given Tramadol to a cat - you have to make sure that the cat doesn't taste it (hide it well or use a pill gun) because it's apparently really, really yucky (we even tried two different compounding formulas for it - no good).  But my cat had no adverse effects from it - in fact, it made him quite pleasant and happy (I guess because pain makes you cranky) and he would play much more when he was on Tramadol.

Unfortunately, I can't get it into him any more (he's wise to all my pill-hiding tricks and a real fighter when it comes to pilling manually), so we've had to resort to buprenorphine.  It doesn't work as well as the Tramadol, but I can get it into him.

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 04:40:45 PM »

I use Tramadol 4x a day for my dog Trooper with no side effects. I would be worried that he is still blocked if he's in pain & not eating. Vomiting can be a sign of constipation also. Its not safe for him to not eat, it can cause liver problems. Try blending canned or baby food meat with broth [no onion or garlic] & syringe it in if necessary. I would call the vet in the morning & get him back in to be checked. You can give pepcid or zantac with flagyl, just not at the same time. Do it a few hours apart. I would think in 45 minutes, some of the flagyl got in.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 06:11:38 PM »

As others have said, not eating can cause fatty liver disease which can be fatal. I wonder about megacolon if your kitty has had problems enough with constipation that he needs enemas. If you have a good emergency vet, I don't think I'd wait - especially on a weekend. What is causing the constipation? What kinds of tests have you had done? This is nothing to mess around with (my girl with megacolon ended up having the surgery to remove the damaged part of her colon and is doing very well now).

Please don't let this go on.

Keeping you both in my prayers.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 07:44:05 PM »

Did your kitty barf up the pill? If you didn't find the pill, it is probably in his small intestine which is where it needs to be to be absorbed. It takes about 1 to 2 hours for it to be absorbed.

As others have said, he should go back to the vet if he is still not eating and is in pain. Do you know what is the cause of his constipation? My kitty had chronic constipation that was treated with Lactulose and that worked well for her.

How long has it been since your kitty ate anything? With my cat, I would syringe small amounts of baby food or AD every two hours. I gave her 4ccs each time which was enough to give her some nutrition but not so much that she needed to vomit it back up.

I have not used Tramadol. Buprenex is the pain medicine my vet prescribed and it worked really well on my cat with no side effects.

I hope you can find the right treatment for your kitty and he will feel better soon.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 08:04:38 PM »

You must be so worried.  I'm so sorry.  I just want to send some warmth your way and hope that your baby will feel better as soon as possible.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 10:02:16 PM »

I did not have a good experience with Tramadol, but it is probably an individual reaction thing and some cats may do okay.  Tramadol is a synthetic opiate, and as such can cause such side effects as dilated pupils, unsteady gait (walking), pacing, anxiety, spaciness, and may effect appetite.  I would also ask the vet if the Tramadol itself can cause some constipation. That is a frequent side effect of narcotic painkillers, but I didn't look it up to say for sure that it is so for Tramadol.  The side effects I mentioned above were experienced by my cat, and I did look up the drug at that time to confirm that they were possible side effects.  The pill is very bitter and can cause extreme drooling when given, so you will have to disguise it well.  Hope you can resolve your kitty's problems.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 08:29:44 AM »

Yep, constipation is a potential side effect with Tramadol.

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 09:38:09 AM »

Thought he was going to eat as he took a few bites then shakes his head a smaks his mouth (nausea?) So I Just went to the vet and he was given a dose of anti nausea Cerenia and more fluids.  Hes spacey and still not eating.  It's been about an hour now and  im not sure how long it takes to work.  Any one ever had this injectable?  They also took blood. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 10:53:42 AM »

sounds more like a tooth pain.  I don't think they connect naseau with their mouths, but a pain from chewing might cause such a reaction.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 03:31:08 PM »

I rubbed my finger over his teeth and gums and he didn't flinch. He goes over to his food and smells it and either walks away or eats the hard food for about 1 min and then hes done.  I just read that Cerenia can cause a cat NOT to eat.  Hes on his 3rd Flagyl pill and I'm hoping that if the not eating is caused by Enema induced Colitis that it kicks in soon.  I'm at a loss.  I'm hoping he doesn't end up on a feeding tube.  He drinks water but won't eat nearly enough.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 04:16:47 PM »

Feeding tubes are sometimes necessary and if he doesn't eat, you don't want to deal with the fatty liver disease. Please watch closely and stay in touch with your vet.
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