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« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2007, 04:25:34 PM »


Hang in there 3cats and IQ.

It's been awhile since I had a diabetic cat, but I seem to remember she was started out on lower amount of insulin, it was then adjusted upward by vet, and then in a middle range.  I think she was on 4 and 6 units of Humulin-U, Ultralente a day.  It was adjusted from time-to-time, and after a few years she no longer needed insulin.

Vet always did the dosage adjusting.  We were lucky.  She didn't need many adjustments and was not on any particular diet back then.   Would have been nice if we had glucose meters then. 

Lots of information on this site.  I just took a refresher course.

Diabetes in Cats for Beginners
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Eventually they will understand,
Replied the glorious cat
For I will whisper into their hearts
That I am always with them
I just am....forever and ever and ever.
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« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2007, 05:15:33 PM »

great site, JustMe. Thank you!
« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2007, 05:16:49 PM »

Thanks, Klondike. Have Karo, but Q won't let me down
if she can help it. Never does anything that isn't graceful
and diva-like (I hope).
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 05:18:35 PM by 3catkidneyfailure » Logged
« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2007, 05:53:20 PM »

Sending you all the loving energy we can, IQ and 3cat

--catbird and Cameo (orange girl sitting on keyboard)
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2007, 06:51:14 PM »

I'll take it, catbird n Cameo. Thanks!
Every ounce of positive energy helps.
3cats n Q-kid
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 06:53:32 PM by 3catkidneyfailure » Logged
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2007, 06:56:56 PM »

Vet says I don't need glucometer yet. However, Keto-sticks
seem a little unreliable to me. So if you all have suggestions
for glucometers, please, tell me. One-Touch Ultra comes up
a lot, so far. Any others that you all have used and liked?

Please excuse me if I sound a little jittery tonight. I am worried
about hypoglycemia. It probably isn't as bad as it sounds if you
know what to do, and I do. If you're like me, anything you haven't
been through before probably sounds scarier than it is.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 07:05:36 PM by 3catkidneyfailure » Logged
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« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2007, 10:12:42 PM »

We did use a glucometer to adjust the insulin at first, and later only occasionally. The cat objected to this sometimes, but overall it wasn't too bad. There was no one touch ultra back then so I don't know if that could be adapted to the ear tests. We learned how to do them from someone in the sugarcats group. The one we used has vanished in moving so I don't know which brand it was. We used the same test strips and lancets that humans use, and the CVS we went to had a deal where if you bought the test strips, the glucometer was free, or with a rebate. Our vet did indeed tell us that the urine tests don't necessarily give you an up to the minute reading because the urine may have been in the bladder for awhile.
You'll get used to reading the reactions of your cat. And in two and a half years, we only had one blood sugar low. The cat got agitated and tipped over a bowl of the other cat's dry food to get to it quickly - we tested - very low glucose. We got the sugar back up fairly quickly as I recall but I'd definitely go the vet if you suspect low sugar.
With the glucose meter it's possible to do a "curve" by testing every 2 hours or so for about eight hours after the insulin shot and it gives you an idea how she reacts to the insulin. I'm sorry I don't remember the particulars of this - we learned it from the sugarcats website folks so maybe someone there or at one of the other sites could give you the details.
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« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2007, 02:55:20 AM »

3cats- The One Touch Ultra is the most popular as it requires but a tiny drop of blood. The testing itself is easier as a two-person job - one to distract and hold the cat while another does the testing. This is not a cat's favorite test, the ears are sensitive. But it is important, once IQ gets down into a range readable for a home glucose monitor (I think most meters can only go to 500 or 600 or so before giving an error message). Testing and medications will all settle into a familiar routine. We wish you all the best. You are not alone!
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« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2007, 08:31:48 AM »

Sorry to hear the numbers weren't lower - hopefully this is just a temporary situation until she's fully stabilized. Continued good thoughts to you both.

I hate it when vets say "oh, you don't need to do X yet." KD's original vet said the same thing about subq fluids when her kidney values first went way up. Less than a week later she was in the hospital and not expected to survive ... then I insisted on the fluids and I have the support of the new vet (colleague of the old one). Our pets have to almost die before they'll recommend anything beyond the "magic food."  Angry
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2007, 08:44:26 AM »

OF --
So sorry to hear you had that experience. I think my vet is partly relying on fact
I'm so close to hospital. Was in to office at the crack of dawn and got Nutri-Cal,
in case.
Have given injection and watching cat like a hawk all day today. Will sleep in clothes
just in case. Wonder if the pet food manufacturers can even conceive what they created
for a lot of us.
Gave my vet a copy of Donald Strombeck's book on home-prepared diets,  and a protein, fats, carbs, fiber, phosphorus
breakdown of Hills prescription, Purina prescription, FF TurkeynGiblets, and Wellness Turkey and
Chicken. I said something is wrong with every one of them, and he agreed. He's taking the
weekend to consider it all food-wise. So some vets are trying, I think.
Hold best thoughts --
IQ and 3cats

« Last Edit: September 28, 2007, 08:48:21 AM by 3catkidneyfailure » Logged
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« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2007, 09:57:34 AM »

3cat I am sorry her test results weren't better, I know nothing about diabetes but you have my heartfelt thoughts.
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2007, 11:08:31 AM »

Thanks, OF, as you do mine for KD.
And, Judy,  good thoughts for Socks.
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« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2007, 11:17:58 AM »

3Cat- I'm so sorry to hear about IQ. Don't have any diabetes experience;but sending hopeful thoughts and prayers your way.

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« Reply #73 on: September 29, 2007, 08:37:21 AM »

Slept in clothes with keys in pocket. Sound familiar?
IQ lethargic this morning. So went to vet for emergency
glucose check. Glucose so high, over 500, that glucometers
can't yet measure it. Day two at two units twice a day.
I am trying to remember being patient. And IQ certainly
needs extra special wishes for control or it won't be good.
IQ n 3cats
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« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2007, 09:09:23 AM »

Hi - wasn't sure if you knew that Dr Hodgins has a forum just for diabetic cats?  Here is a link in case you are interested. You do have to sign up but it is no big deal.
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