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« on: November 29, 2011, 05:39:57 PM »

I have not had a good run of luck with my cats in the past few months.  First, back in August, Phantom swallowed that toy mouse and had to go to the ER.  (She recovered fully and rapidly with no long-term effects other than to my bank account.)  Then Isis had been not doing well, and was recently diagnosed with severe hyperthyroidism.

In all the talking I've done about Isis recently, I haven't mentioned what's been going on with Cameo.  She has hurt her right rear leg.

Back about a month ago, Cameo was jumping into our bay window like she always does, and she fell.  It's not very high off the floor (which is carpeted) and I'm sure she kind of miscalculated because there was a Halloween pumpkin in the window, which she wasn't used to, and probably affected her landing space.  She landed more or less on her hind legs, and seemed to be fine.  But she stopped going into the bay window.  I figured she was afraid.

A few weeks later, Cameo was standing in the living room and Linley walked by her too closely for her comfort, and must have looked threatening.  Cameo threw herself down on her back and side to put all four paws with claws extended towards Linley.  (She does this when she feels really threatened.)  She seemed to land very hard on the same hind leg that had taken the brunt of the weight during the earlier fall.  After that, we noticed that Cameo did not seem able to jump up on the couch.  She would try, but would cry and just couldn't seem to get the oomph to get up there.  Sometimes, when we lift her up on the couch, she will later jump down, and after that she seems to limp/favor that same hind leg.  She also isn't running like she used to.  I can tell that it hurts her sometimes when she stands up or walks. Cry

There are two complicating factors in this.  For one, Cameo is quite fat.  (She has always had food issues which I attribute to her Hurricane Katrina experiences, plus I'm sure she's been going around and visiting the multiple feeding stations we've had to put out for Isis in the past few months.)  Second, she is a Manx.  Cameo is about nine or ten years old; we have had her for six years now, and she's never had any of the Manx spinal problems.  I think the problem that is causing the inability to jump up and the limping is in the leg, but of course, I can't help worrying about her back.

She doesn't seem to have anything that would indicate a slipped disc or something like that; I've seen her scratch her ear with the same leg and she seems to have full mobility of the joint.  It's just weight-bearing and pushing off to jump that seem to be painful.

In examining the leg, it looks to me like it might be somewhat swollen around the middle joint.  I believe she has a soft-tissue injury that is slow to heal because of her weight, and probably hurts extra with the weather here.  (I know my bad knee has been aching at times!)  At this time, I do not want to subject her to the stress and bouncing around of a vet visit in cold weather, and my plan is to watch it and try to minimize further trauma to the area.  I'm giving her glucosamine chondrotin treats for cartilage support.

Yesterday I bought her pet steps to get up on the couch, but I think she is afraid or unable to use them.  She understands stairs and using steps to get up to things and has always figured out how to get up where she wants, so it's not a question of learning.

Cameo is my "heart cat", only the second cat in my life that I've felt that special intimate bond with.  She is very sensitive and wise and smart, and it wrenches me to see this dear little purr-son in pain.

So any good vibes, prayers, or special thoughts for my dear little Manx girl would be appreciated.  Thanks for listening.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 05:49:03 PM »

Catbird, I'm so sorry to hear about this.  I can hear how worried you are about her.  That's great that you got some cat stairs for her - hopefully she'll figure out what they are and that they are safe, and she'll start using them so if her leg is giving her trouble, it will have a chance to mend.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that it's just a matter of letting her leg muscles rest some.

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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 06:33:58 PM »

Poor Cameo!  I hope she recovers soon.  If not, it would be good to have her leg & back x-rayed, as I'm sure you will.  Manx seem to be susceptable to this kind of injury, especially if they are a little overweight.  Their balance can be a little off, and if they slip, they never quite land like a tailed cat.  Bottom heavy combined with no tail to correct and balance, plus maybe a little stiffer back with that shortened spinal column.

Rudi has done this about 10x in his 14 years of life.  Generally he didn't favor one leg, but seemed to have general pain/tenderness in all of his hindquarters.  He also got really grumpy and defensive, growling and hissing if I even petted his head.  The first time happened a few weeks after I got him.  I saw him try to jump up on furniture, slip and hit right on his tail stub.  I took him to the vet after a day of not being able to jump and acting very irritable from the pain.  Vet checked him over and I think x-rayed him.  Nothing showed, so he said he probably bruised his tail and other parts of his back. 

I think that even if they don't show any back problems when younger, most tailess/almost tailless manxies do have some spine abnormalities and will probably develop at least a little arthritis when aging.  Rudi is having a lot of trouble with hyperesthesia and stiffness in his back and hind legs now, the same thing that happened to my first dear little manxy girl.  I'm trying to find some nutritional support for arthritis and the hyperesthesia, and trying gradually to get him to lose a little weight.  Cameo is still young, so if you can find some nutritional boosters for her before she gets too creaky, she might do a lot better than mine have as she ages.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 06:48:51 PM »

Thanks, petslave, for that information.  Although I'm sorry to hear about Rudi having fallen and hurt himself all those times, I am in an odd way reassured, since if he recovered without serious problems, hopefully Cameo will too.  And maybe she will benefit from starting the glucosamine at this age.

She has always appeared to be much more careful when jumping than most of my other cats, which I have attributed to more difficulty with balance since she lacks a tail.

I don't think it's her rear or hip, because I frequently see her sitting on her little tail nub with both hind legs splayed out forwards, to groom her legs and tummy.  She reminds me of Jabba the Hut when she's in this position!
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 06:55:48 PM »

That's a good sign that she can roll back on her tail like that.  Rudi could never do that, in part because of his big belly, but also because he has always been a little sensitive back there.  How much of a tail does Cameo have?  I think the fewer the vertebrae, the more likely they have deformities in the rest of the spinal column.  My first manx girl was completely tailless.  Rudi has maybe 2 bones at most, probably one, just enough to raise a patch of hair when he "puts" his tail up, which is rather cute. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 07:06:00 PM »

Sending prayers for Cameo, I hope her leg feels better soon. Maybe right now until she uses the cat stairs, maybe a cat ramp?
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 07:27:53 PM »

Sounds like a sprain or a popped joint, maybe.  HOpefully nothing worse.  {{{hugs}}} for cameo and may she heal well.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 08:07:44 PM »

That's a good sign that she can roll back on her tail like that.  Rudi could never do that, in part because of his big belly, but also because he has always been a little sensitive back there.  How much of a tail does Cameo have?  I think the fewer the vertebrae, the more likely they have deformities in the rest of the spinal column.  My first manx girl was completely tailless.  Rudi has maybe 2 bones at most, probably one, just enough to raise a patch of hair when he "puts" his tail up, which is rather cute.  

Cameo has a little nub of tail which is actually mostly fur.  It feels like there isn't any bone in there at all, just a little cartilage, or maybe a couple of really, really tiny bones.  Her tail always shows, but shows a lot more when she "puts it up" as you describe it.  There is a picture of her tail end here:




You can see her tail just above the yellow squash in the picture.  It's in the "up" position, from being pushed against the "still life", which is the maximum length and visibility.  She is very much the bunny-tail kind of Manx.

ETA:  Looking at this picture, which was taken 2 years ago, it's amazing that she's gotten fatter still!  I think all the weight Isis lost, Cameo has gained. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 11:21:35 PM »

I think there must be some law somewhere that says if you have more than one pet, they have to get sick or hurt at the same time Undecided   I'm sorry to read about your heart-kitty, Cameo.  She is just beautiful in that picture.  I will be sending big healing vibes her way Kiss 
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 06:08:06 AM »

You might want to try the Zeel & Traumeel or call the vet for a pain med. Hopefully its just a sprained knee, but you may need xrays if it doesn't improve soon. Try a little catnip or a few treats on the pet steps, that might encourage  her to try them.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 06:56:59 AM »

Are the Zeel and Traumeel OK for cats?  And if so, what is the cat dosage?  I know the "main active ingredient" is arnica, which my vet used when Phantom sprained her front leg years back.  But I don't know about the other ingredients?  I can get it at the grocery co-op if need be.

If I call the vet, I'm sure she'll want me to bring Cami in for an x-ray now, which I don't want to do just yet because I think the car ride could further injure her leg. Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 07:17:08 AM »

hugs & love for you & your 'little' heart-girl.  Hope she heals soon.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 07:54:26 AM »

Sorry to hear about Cameo's leg. Hope she's moving more comfortably today. I can certainly understand about not wanting to do a vet appointment unless absolutely necessary. Just getting the carrier out around here sends 3/4 into hiding.

I got the steps when CJ started having real problems jumping and it did take her a bit to be comfortable with them. The treat on the step was the strategy I used and it worked! (She would do most anything for a treat - so that was easy)

Keep us posted!
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 08:22:54 AM »

Oh darn, Im sorry to read this about Cameo.  I agree with Fizzy, it seems that the kitty troubles come in groups or waves.  Do you think Cameo would somehow let you get a heating pad to that area, like maybe try slipping a heating pad under her when she is laying on the side of the leg injury?  For sure, Cameo is in my thoughts and prayers.  Let us know how she continues to do.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 02:40:24 PM »

So sorry to read this! Sending many hopes, head scritches, and hugs, for Cameo to feel better soon.

She looks so cute and beautiful in her photo.
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