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Author Topic: kitten with blood on stool, any ideas?  (Read 7255 times)
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Sandi K
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« on: October 21, 2007, 11:38:15 AM »

Hi, we got a new kitten in July, she was 12 weeks old when we got her and she is now 6 months old.  She is gaining weight, playing well and eating well.  She weighs 7.5 lbs already and is a Maine Coon so I suspect she's going to be a very big girl.  The problem is that when she first came to us she was having diahrrea.  They tested her stool and found coccidia so she went on meds for that and it cleared up.  She was doing well but then the diahrrea returned, she was tested again for coccidia, giardia, e coli and tons of other things.  Nothing showed up and the diahrrea went away on its own again.  Now 2 weeks later it is back, just a little mush occasionally.  She went this morning and it was mostly good but there was blood on a firm piece of stool.  We have seen occasional blood in her poo.  We have no idea what to do and what to test for.  She is on California Natural dry food and Wellness wet food (just 1/4 can a day).  She is scheduled for spay Tuesday and now I dont know if we should postpone the spay or not so I will call her vet tomorrow.  Does anyone have any ideas on what this could be?  Thank you, Sandi
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catmom5
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 12:39:39 PM »

A year ago I had two little kittens wander into my yard after having been put out by neighbors to die.  They were obviously very sick, flea infested, thin, wormy, etc.  When I took them to the vet they were treated, medicated, everything that needed to be done.  However, they continued to have diarrhea to soft stool, often blood tinged.  We discovered, after much testing, treating for ghiardia (which is hard to get a positive for sometimes) that when they were overeating they got the diarrhea. I cut back to two smaller meals a day and everything cleared up. Apparently too much food really irritated their little gut and caused them problems. Don't know if this helps much, but this is the experience I had.  The vet said this is one of the most common reasons for intestinal problems with kittens ~ overfeeding. It's easy to do, because my boys would act like they were starving all the time. Even with the reduced food intake, they grew healthy and strong and gained weight as they should.
Good luck!
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Sandi K
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2007, 01:02:00 PM »

Catmom,  thanks for the idea.  I suppose its possible but she only eats 1/2 cup of California Natural a day and 1/4 of the 3 oz size of Wellness kitten wet food a day so it doesnt seem like she's getting too much.......
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Laurie
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2007, 01:07:36 PM »

   As catmom5 expressed, overeating can cause diarhea. If that is not the case, another thought would be to eliminate the kibble for awhile to see if there is any improvement. Kibble is much harder on their digestive systems than canned.
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Sandi K
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2007, 01:13:21 PM »

Laurie, no she is eating the kitten Wellness canned which does have grains ( I think rice) in it as far as I know.  I have been thinking about maybe needing to switch to Evo kitten food which is grainless to see if that helps any.  (and I do know we need to switch very slowly)

Its just so hard knowing what is really going on as she has had this problem off and on ever since we had her.  Its not like it developed suddenly, its just been this way since the first time we brought her home. 
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Laurie
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2007, 01:30:24 PM »

   Sandi, I looked at the Wellness website and the kitten formula has no grains. If she has been thoroughly tested recently and all came back negative, I would suspect it may be something in the food that does not agree with her. Since she has also been on antibiotics you may want to consider adding some probiotics to her food to help replenish the good bacteria in her stomach. This may help with the diarhea also. Has she always been fed only these two brands of foods?
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2007, 02:55:29 PM »

Laurie, I checked too and you are right, at least the Wellness has no grains.  She has not always been on this food but when she came to us her diahrrea was way worse (3 times a day)  and she had been on Iams and Fancy Feast at the breeders.  So I slowly transitioned her over one at a time, the dry food first to California Natural, things improved some for awhile and then have been off and on. Then I added Wellness starting with just a spoonful once a day.  After about a week things firmed up again so I added a little more.  She did good on that for about 2 weeks now we have a combination of mush and normal stool but the normal stool is what had the blood streaks on it.  She hasnt been on anti-biotics for over a month now and she had been on pro-biotics and I didnt see any change.  Its just this waxing and waning blood on her stool and it isnt always full diahrrea.    Thanks for your help Laurie!
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 03:31:30 PM »

SandiK, has her stool been checked for worms?  I know worms can cause bloody, runny stool in kittens.  I would check w/the vet about the spay appointment and see if it would need to be postponed until you figure out what is going on.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2007, 03:47:15 PM »

My boys got 1/4 C dry (each) twice a day PERIOD!  And they gained the weight they needed to AND they played hard and often. You said that she was fine and then you increased the wet.  Maybe you might back down to when she was okay and keep her at that amount just to see if she improves.
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Laurie
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 04:01:08 PM »

   Sandi, When her stool was checked the last time do you know if they checked it in house or sent it off to a lab? Many times samples examined under a microsope at a lab will show things that cannot be found otherwise. You could also try giving her a little Slippery Elm to help with the diarhea untill things get figured out.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2007, 04:28:56 PM »

Laurie, the tests they did were sent to a lab in Washington.  I will be giving them a call in the morning to see if we need to postpone the spay appt.

Kittylyda, yep she was checked for worms, giardia, e coli, coccidia and a few other parasites, so far nothing.

Catmom,  she had been on the 1/4 can of wet food for over a week before any of this started again.  And she had good spells and bad spells while just on the dry too so I cant pinpoint exactly when this started again.  Im just not seeing any correlation between food and this problems that seems to come and go.  I will check with the vet to see if we need to reduce the amount of food she is eating.  Some days she eats the whole bowl which is 1/2 cup, other days she doesnt eat very much of it so she is pretty good at policing herself.  The instructions say 1/2 cup for her size but maybe its too much.

This is such a mystery, I really appreciate all of your help!  Sandi
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Laurie
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2007, 04:41:39 PM »

   Reducing the amount of food she eats may be a good place to start. You might want to talk to your vet about whether she may have some type of digestive problem or food intolerance if reducing her food intake does not help.  Good Luck and keep us posted!
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catbird
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2007, 04:47:45 PM »

Just a thought--is the kitten eating anything other than what you feed her?  Catching bugs, swallowing pieces of fuzz or string, eating grass, mice, dog food, "snacks" from your meals,etc?
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Sandi K
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2007, 04:57:35 PM »

Catbird, she is total indoor kitten so no grass and no bugs.  I leave no food on the counter so it cant be that, and we dont feed her anything but her kitty food. 

She does occasionally eat things little things off the carpet, little pieces of fuzz but they are microscopic in size and I dont think it explains the 2 weeks of good poos and then falling back into the diahrrea. 

I so appreciate all of your ideas, it really helps to think of all of these possibilities!  Sandi
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2007, 05:39:39 PM »

You could try to add probiotics to her food, I use Animal Essentials enzymes and probiotics when needed, works wonderfully.
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