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Author Topic: I think my Hamish McDoogle is having vision problems!  (Read 3853 times)
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« on: September 15, 2014, 04:54:52 PM »

My Hamish McDoogle has been having a lot of trouble locating his food on the big dish.  I point it out to him and he just looks dumb, and doesn't reach for it.  I hold it up to him and he smells it and doesn't want it, as if he doesn't know what it is.  He has been doing this for a few days, but I thought he just didn't like what I was putting on the dish, but now it is becoming apparent that he either can't smell or can't see well.  Now I'm thinking can't SEE well.  When I look smack into his eyes, he  looks like he can't focus on me and I get sort of a blank stare from him.

And when he tries to come up onto the counter, he sits on the nearby table and reaches out for the counter, and feels around for it, and feels around as if he can't use his eyes to locate it, and finally  he reaches out and feels it and then he jumps over onto the counter.  Earlier he was on a stool, and looked down to jump down, but seemed afraid to jump because he didn't seem sure of how far it was, so I lifted him down.   He knows his way around, so can find his way , but I think he definitely has vision problems.  I finally got him to eat some tuna in gravy grilled.  It may have had a strong aroma, and I put it right in front of his nose, and thank goodness he ate it.
I have been thinking lately that Hamish has been getting quite clingy and wanting more attention than usual lately, and if he is having vision problems he may have been trying to tell me something is wrong.

I think he has lost weight too, but if he hasn't been eating as much because he can't find the food, when I'm not there, that might be why.  It's hard to notice if he has lost weight because he is so fluffy.  He is my main coon type cat.  Very long soft, fluffy fur.
I am sure she will do blood work on him.

I called and made an appointment for him and for Blackie's fluids tomorrow at 8 a.m. I thought I should go as early as possible since I don't know what will be happening with my son.  Hope I can get to sleep tonight.
I hope it is not a serious organ problem which is having this effect on his eyesight.
I don't think I can handle any more than I already have on my plate.
Tho if I must, I guess I will, won't I.
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 05:01:02 PM »

Sorry to hear you have yet another ailing cat, BW. Has he at this point been diagnosed with any chronic illnesses? (I can't remember.)

What do his pupils look like? Are they widely dilated all the time, or do they react to light and get thin at times? (Pupils that are dilated all the time indicate high blood pressure.) Are his eyes cloudy? is there discharge?

It is indeed odd that he doesn't seem to be able to find his food by smell. I met a totally blind cat at the vet office a few days back who was not only able to find me, but to dig in my purse for the package of cat treats I had had there a week before!

I'm glad you will be taking him in tomorrow.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 05:10:39 PM »

Oh, many prayers for sweet Hamish.  Is he the one who got the cut on his tail that one night?   Undecided 
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 05:13:56 PM »

Blood pressure & heart problems can cause blindness but should not affect smell . Horner's can cause both & is almost always from a hidden tumor pressing on nerves . If you recall , Trooper had eye, nose , mouth & throat issues from it . Hoping it is something simple & easily treated ! Remember if you need help I can come at least at night  right now .
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 05:14:21 PM »

Catbird,  No his dilation seems ok.  His pupils were big in the kitchen but narrowed slits out in the sunroom.  No discharge, no cloudiness.  And NO, so far he has been a healthy cat, with no problems at all.  He is on no meds or anything.
She has seen him in the past, but i forget why.  It was not anything that required any medication, I know that.  He does have that terrible herpes  condition, where he has the uri symptoms, runny nose, coughing, snorting, lots of mucus,  or whatever, but the L Lysine always handles that very well.  And of course with his long fur he has olympic sized hairballs always.  Just when I think he is strangling, and going to vomit an incredible hairball appears on the rug,  really incredibly enormous.  I can't imagine how he gets them up without suffocating.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 05:20:21 PM »

Merrihart,  No, the cat with the gash on his tail was Baby Higgs!

And Leslie, thank you again for your offer of help, you are ever so kind.  At this point, I think I will be ok.

Oh my those problems seem far more serious than I had imagined.   I certainly am glad now that I made that appointment tomorrow morning!!  I should have realized that vision problems would probably not be JUST VISION problems.
I'm really really tired now, and am going to go to bed after a snack which i'm not supposed to have at this hour, but I'm hungry.
I think that perhaps 1/2 a Xanax is called for tonight to help me sleep all the way through.  I haven't been using it very much at all.  Only on 9/11 for Tiggerty, I did use it then.
Thank you for your messages., and many blessings.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2014, 05:23:15 PM »

It would be good you can get his blood pressure checked.  Some cats have bouts of high blood pressure and they can't see well at that time, with dilated pupils, but eyes return to normal later when the pressure goes back down.  I hope it's something easily treatable - you need a break from more cats getting sick!
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 02:17:17 AM »

Sending a prayer for Hamish McDoogle, I hope he has something easily treated.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 03:12:24 AM »

BW <<<<<hugs>>>>>>  I'm so sorry to hear that there is one more to worry about.  I hope the appointment goes well and smoothly.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 05:47:58 AM »

I got my Hamish McDoogle to the vet this morning at 8 a.m.  He is now partially blind.  I wasn't crazy he really wasn't able to find his food on his  plate.  He sees better in the dark, so now I'm keeping the shades closed in the kitchen.
At some point, I will have to take him to NorthStar in New Brunswick to an eye specialist.

She said that it is very difficult to get an accurate bp on a cat because they are always so upset at the vets.  His heart sounded good, no murmur and it was steady and strong.
She took an ocular pressure and said that is a good indication of internal bp.  His ocular pressure was NORMAL.  But he did not seem to flinch, or blink even a little bit when she came near his pupil to take the ocular pressure, he didn't seem to see the instrument at all.  She had put the drops in, but still he should have seen the instrument coming close to his eye and normally blinked or flinches, but he did nothing at all.  He just didn't seem to see it coming.  He could notice her hand passing in front of his eyes, but not the small instrument.   She could see some little bit of cataracts but not enough to be causing this problem.
His pupils got smaller in the flashlight, but the opened pupils in the dark room were not as dilated  as they should be.  She said some of it could be age, but not all of it.
She said he definitely has a vision deficit.  I will at some point have to take him to the eye specialist in North Star.  She says there is a marvelous eye specialist there.
She took blood and we are waiting for the results.

He is heavy, and now my right arm is really hurting me.  I think I must have strained something carrying him and lifting him up into the car etc.  They help me out but then I have to lift and carry him back into the house, and Blackie too.
I am sure it will get better, it does this sometimes when I carry heavy litter bags et.
And of course I was digging yesterday.  Darn it all, now it is raining and I hope the planks keep my grave dry.  Tiggerty is not in it yet and I don't want to put  him in a wet grave.  I will have to try and find a tarp to put over everything, but at the moment, I couldn't spread it out with  my arm the way it is.  I didn't know it was going to rain or I would ahve covered everything with plastic yesterday.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 08:41:49 AM »

BW,

I remember you saying that Hamish is clumsy and falls a lot, and sometimes has trouble jumping up to counters.  This was several years ago (2009), in Sweetie Pie's thread (which I've recently been re-reading).  I wonder if vision problems might be more long-standing than you realize.  Maybe he's always had some deficit. ? Cats are so good at adapting.  And they are generally considered to be near-sighted, compared to humans.  I think they rely very strongly on smell and hearing.  My cousin has had blind cats (from birth), and she says they have managed in their environment so well, she might not otherwise know they are blind. 

With the feline herpes virus, there may be times when his sense of smell was diminished - and the fishier foods directed him to the dish.  There may be some influence of the virus, on vision problems, too.

I know you have so much going on right now.  I hope Hamish can see the eye specialist fairly soon.

I also hope it will stop raining there, and that you recover from hoisting your big boy.



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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 03:41:05 PM »

Spartycats, what a wonderful memory you have!!!  Yes, indeed, I have always said that Hamish is extremely clumsy, and you are right, perhaps he could have had vision problems all this time and I didn't realize it.  I must mention that to the doctor next time I see her.  It could be something he has had a long time but that now it is worsening with age.    I had not even thought of that.  Poor boy, may have always had trouble seeing and I called him clumsy!  Poor Hamie Hamie (which is what I call him)

Thank you for pointing that out!!  Bless you.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2014, 04:31:37 AM »

Trooper & Fragile & Remy all saw the eye specialist at Northstar , she was wonderful ! Their new hospital is beautiful & literally 1 turn off Rt 195 . Only a few minutes from the Hamilton Mall .
 Don't forget to put arnica on your arm !
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2014, 11:50:48 AM »

I hope your arm is better today, BW, and send positive vibes for Hamish McDoogle that his problem is diagnosed soon. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2014, 10:05:28 AM »

Leslie, so glad you like the eye specialist and that the hospital is so close to the main highway.  that 's a relief.
She said that his blood work was all good, except his ALT (liver) was a little high.  Monday I will take him in for the day.

AND I took the paper towel with the bright red (i thought blood that I found by the livingroom door on the floor) to the vet today, and she examined it and said NO it is NOT BLOOD!  She said it looks like some  kind of food coloring.  And she asked about toys, and I don't give them toys, most of them are too dangerous in my opinion.  They have balls, but no red balls, I couldn't imagine what it could be. 
However, now I think I have solved the mystery.  I just recalled that last night, he and winifred sneaked into the catless room, (I left the door unlatched accidentally) and I found them way in the back under the papasan chair and chased them out.

I just got down on my knees and sure nuff,  way back there I found some WET red feathers from one of those toys on a stick, that you dangle.  I had it in there because no cats are allowed in there. It is almost all storage now, for all the things I don't want the cats to hurt.  I have been preparing Tiggerty for burial in there, and going in and out this one time I left the hook unlatched, and they sneaked in there and found that toy, way under the big chair.  SOOOO, I think that is the red food dye.
Kind of a relief, that it wasn't blood.
I'm afraid he may have eaten a lot of the feather, but I guess cats eat birds, so maybe that won't hurt him, or maybe he didn't actually find a big feather, hopefully only a tiny one.
Must get ready to go for my grand daughter now.
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