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« on: December 05, 2011, 11:02:22 AM »

Cameo has been seen by the in-home vet.  

Based on the history and symptoms, the vet does not feel that there is any kind of fracture, dislocation, or ligament tear.  In view of the fact that it's worsening and that the other leg is now affected somewhat, and that the problem seems to get somewhat better and then get worse, the vet's strong suspicion is that the problem is spinal.  What likely happened is that Cameo hurt her back somewhat in the original fall a month ago, and the inflammation has gotten worse and worse, causing not only pain but eventually pressure on nerves. Cry  She could possibly have a bulging disc, but of course it would take more tests to diagnose that.

Since Cameo was poked and prodded enough today, and since she's clearly in pain, the vet did not feel it was necessary to do an x-ray today.  However, that may become part of the picture down the road.

She has started Cameo on prednisone to reduce inflammation and swelling, no matter what the specific source.  She will get it twice a day for three days and then taper down.  Cameo took the first dose like a pro in a Pill Pocket; I hope that continues. We are also to start her on a daily dose of Laxatone, since with the reduced mobility and her "Manxness" she could become constipated.  The vet also recommended that we set things up in such a way that Cameo is kept as quiet as possible, doesn't have to walk around much, and doesn't have to do anything that might strain her back further, which we've already done.

This was a wonderful, kind, compassionate vet, and all the cats seemed to like her.  

Please continue all your strong prayers and healing vibes that the pred will help poor Cameo.  It is so pathetic to see her like this.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 11:27:14 AM »

Your mobile vet does sound very kind, that's going to help the stress level.  I am very hopeful that the pred will kick in and give Cameo much needed relief.  Hugs to both of you!
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 01:49:15 PM »

That is such incredible news to have found someone so caring and knowledgeable like you did!

I send good healing vibes and hope the prednisone will kick in quickly to give Cameo some comfort.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 04:27:14 PM »

You may want to set a closer litter box for Cameo also. The preds will make her drink more & go more. The visiting vet sounds like a keeper, did they advise any pain meds too ?
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 04:46:50 PM »

Yeah, one of my friends whose cat had pred for allergies says it makes them pee a lot.  We do have an upstairs litter box in the spare bedroom, where Cameo will be spending the night, fortunately.  No other pain meds at this time; based on my own experience with prednisone, the pain relief from that alone should be significant.  There is also the possibility of putting her on a baby aspirin every third day for long-term, but the vet said cats actually do better than dogs or humans with prednisone, better than she likely would with aspirin, which cats don't eliminate very well.

After she's had only one dose 6-7 hours ago, I can tell it's helping her a little bit, although she's still having a lot of trouble, her hindquarters are down, and she's still dragging one leg at times.  She's very alert when she's awake, and hungry, which is to be expected--wired from the pred.  I've been trying to put food near where she's sitting to help discourage her from walking around too much.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 06:08:13 PM »

My friend Nancy's Angel Marie did well for years on prednisolone only. I wondered if Cameo might need something extra to get her started though. If they suspect a spinal problem, I've been reading alot about Gabapentin for back & neck pain. Have considered putting Frag on it & switching Trooper to it from Tramadol.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 07:05:02 PM »

CJ is now on gabapentin for arthritis pain - and her kidney/liver values have remained in the normal range since she's been on it. She has severe arthritis in her spine, knees and elbows. It seems to keep her comfortable. (She also has a bed that's heated and has orthopedic foam . . .)
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2011, 07:25:44 PM »

Thanks for the suggestions about gabapentin.  If it turns out that Cameo needs something additional for long-term pain relief, I'll ask about that.  I have some heat-reflecting cat bed pads and will try to add one to each of Cameo's major beds.  I've noticed that she's been seeking out extra-warm places, like next to hot air registers, even more since she was injured.

ETA:  Just got the second pred dose in easily with the Pill Pockets.  At the rate we are going, I'm going to have to buy them by the ton, because Phantom thinks the empty ones are the greatest cat treat ever invented.  (NOT ingredients I approve of in a treat, but what am I going to do?)  Phantom demands to have one the minute I get them out.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 08:18:18 PM »

Keeping her warm should help to keep her comfortable. I don;t have much experience with meds, other than short term prednisone for other issues, and constipation could be a problem but you are taking care of that already. Hope Cameo will feel better soon.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 08:21:18 PM »

I, too, have felt the reluctance of using the Pill Pockets, but we all need to cut ourselves a little slack when we have sick kids.  "Sugar helps the medicine go down in a most delightful way".  It's only temporary, or the lesser of evils.

Continued healing thoughts for Cameo Kiss

Eta:   When Scooby was taking a gazillion pills a day, I searched on line for Pill pockets.  I did find them at reduced prices and different flavors.   My vet also had them for not much more, though. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 12:13:05 AM »

Darn it, Im so sorry to hear about Cameo but hoping the Pred provides some relief for her.  I remember KiKi had a back injury, and it was from jumping up or down off of something, and they gave her Prednisone, I cant remember if it was injection or pill form.  She got better within a couple of months.  I remember we had stair thingy's all over the house, for the couch, the bed, whereever she would jump up.  We also put her on a heating pad set on low setting every day for a few periods of time.  So Im hoping this is just a temporary thing for dear Cameo and she will get past this, bless her heart.  On the Pill Pockets, I say whatever works, if it helps her to take her meds and makes it easier for you, thats what matters.  I bet its so hard to see your baby like this.  Continued thoughts and prayers for Cameo, please let us know how she is doing.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 08:21:42 AM »

Catbird, this sounds so similar to what happened to Mia. She injured her back somehow and couldn't walk at all. Her tail was dead and we thought she was permanently paralyzed. Slowly, she started to regain mobility but even after three years, she still had a limp (right back leg). It doesn't stop her from running like the wind when she wants to but you can tell something's off when she walks. You can also tell when her back is bothering her because you can't comb her without her getting pi**ed off about it. We definitely confined her to her kennel for most of the day for the first month. That seemed to help a lot. She wasn't on prednisolone for very long or any other pain killer as she didn't seem to be in pain after that first week. I would try to massage her back when she would let me and other than providing step stools everywhere, there wasn't a whole lot we could do. They thought that she had a spinal stroke rather than a compressed disc because there was nothing visible on the MRI or on X-ray. It seems odd to say but fish foods seems to make her limp worse, so she doesn't get them any more. I had been feeding her a particular type of dry food a couple of years ago and she started having these dislocation problems. On x-ray, her bones weren't as dense as they should have looked. I stopped the food and the problem went away entirely. Very, very bizarre. No issues since, other than Mr. T forcing her to run her butt off -- and I try to limit that as well so she doesn't have a bad backache in the morning.

I hope you can get to the bottom of Cameo's issue. It was a long road for Mia but she's alright.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 09:16:27 AM »

Bug, thanks much for your info about Mia; it's so encouraging to me.  I have been in a very dark place lately when Cameo is having a bad stretch and dragging half her hindquarters.  I don't know if she'd tolerate a kennel, but I will look into it.  Plus, one of my well-meaning friends used the E-word this morning.   Cry Cry Cry  which I certainly did not need to hear.

I can see where some sort of food sensitivity for Mia might increase inflammation, which would give her more problems.

I want to thank everyone for your support and kindness.  Sometimes I think to myself, "We can do this; we can get through it."  And more often, I feel like the title of Ned's past thread about the journey with Thunder--"I can't cope."  Every time I look at my poor sweet Cameo, I want to burst into tears.  It's also bringing back all sorts of traumatic memories of when Fluffy died of saddle thrombus (even though the vet assures me that is not the case with Cameo, it looks so similar.)  And I'm of course kicking myself for not seeking medical help sooner, even though it didn't seem serious until only the past several days, just seemed like what you would expect from a strained joint or something.

Just a note--since the injury turned out to be to her back and not her leg, I'm going to split off the thread from the point of yesterday, when we found out, so that in case anyone else happens upon it, the nature of  the problem being treated will be more clear.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 09:57:59 AM »

I'd like to chime in in favor of the gabapentin, too.  My old dog is on it for severe spinal arthritis, which is causing her nerve pain.  The gabapentin makes her so much more comfortable, we are very careful to make sure that we don't run low on it.  We got it compounded in chicken flavor, but the dog said it was gross (never saw a dog shudder at the taste of something before).  Now we get it compounded in bacon flavor, which she finds much more acceptable.

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 10:35:53 AM »

Sending continuing prayers and good thoughts for Cameo - glad you have found this kind vet. I don't know much about specifically cat spine injuries but I do know that pred will help her feel much better. So good that she can be pilled even if you have to buy extra pill pockets! Good girl Cameo!
 
If she doesn't like a kennel, still wants to be on couches, walks but can't easily do pet stairs- maybe a sloping carpeted ramp will help her get up on a pet bed or the couch with not much more disturbance to the spine than regular walking?? If stores don't have them maybe make one?
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