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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2012, 02:39:04 PM »

Okay, another complication. I have an apartment building right behind me and a couple who lives there has two cats. One will go out on the balcony, but other than making the squirrels nervous, she's not a problem. The other cat, Miss Kitty, is a beautiful orange and white girl who is left out all the time (at least during the day). When I mentioned that she was hanging out in my yard, bothering my indoor cats, the owner told me to throw a rock at her. I tried chasing her away when I saw her (often) but she would just run off and come back when I left the area. On a rather cold day, she was out - no food or water left out for her ever - in Tommy's shelter. At that point, I allowed her to sniff me and put food and kibble out, but away from the feeding area.

Well, tonight she chased Tommy away from his food twice! She ate the first bowl, so I chased her off and put a fresh bowl out for him. He had just started eating again and she came back. The owner came out on his balcony and I explained that I was feeding a feral cat, always at 5:00 and would he please take his cat in when he got home from work because she was eating his food. The guy just shrugged his shoulders, asked what I expected him to do and seemed rather annoyed that I would even say anything. So, I took that as a big NO!

So, what can I do to ensure that Tommy gets his food every night? If I go out to chase her off, he runs away, too. I'm so angry because he needs the food and nourishment.  Angry Angry Angry And I really don't want to take on the expense of putting out two cans of food every night in different areas, but if that's the only way I can make sure he eats, I will do that.

Does anyone have any ideas? The owners are apparently not going to cooperate. And any kind of barriers for her would be barriers for him, too. My only hope is that since they are renting, that they will move on very soon, but probably not.

Thanks for any help here . . .
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2012, 06:29:28 PM »

Ai, outside feeding wars.  At one point we had four on the porch vying for The Bowl, and unfortunately, to make sure the ones we were trying to feed got theirs, that meant four bowls and sitting out there hall monitoring.  Shocked  It was a zoo, and there was much chasing.  I would suggest taking down or moving the shelter for a few days, because if she is attracted to the shelter because she is left out,  she'll want to claim it and that spot, and the food might just be a bonus to her.  I would really try and keep her from getting any food though, if possible, since she already has a home.  Is Tommy adaptable to having where you put the food move around a little bit while you're discouraging Ms Kitty from taking up residence?  Maybe if the food gets put out closer to where he hangs out when he's waiting for it would help him get the idea that the food is for him.  Sometimes, they will be intrigued if you toss them one kibble at a time, making a trail to the plate,  although it might be too cold outside to do this now?

Bless you for looking out for him!
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2012, 06:41:01 PM »

There is a feeding station and a shelter. I feel bad if she is hungry, but I am more worried about Tommy not getting fed. The feeding station is very close to where he waits - he hides in the ornamental grasses. If I stay outside, he won't come out and eat.

Miss Kitty basically has the run of the block. I think she thinks every place is hers. I wondered if I stopped feeding her at all whether she would just stop expecting food. Or maybe I could put the food out by her owner's garage door.

My big concern is that Tommy have a safe place for food and shelter if he needs it. I also wonder if MK is another reason Lucy has not come back.

Thanks for the ideas. I'm open to anything anyone might suggest.
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2012, 07:38:52 PM »

If they are leaving her out in the bad weather with no food & water, she will come to your yard no matter what you do. Maybe a shelter & feeding area for her near their garage would keep her out of Tommy & Lucy's ? I don't see any way to keep her out of theirs unless she has her own. It stinks that you have to provide for her instead of her owner, but it doesn't sound like he is willing to change anything.
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2012, 07:46:53 PM »

If they are not feeding her and giving her proper care, in my opinion - they don't own the cat either. Maybe trap her and find her a good home is the answer.

Just my humble opinion.

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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2012, 08:40:50 PM »

I second what Caylee says. Embarrassed  They don't deserve her.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2012, 04:19:23 AM »

Leslie's idea sounds good.  Would suggest being careful what you say to this guy unless you know you can talk to him.  He might decide to get rid of his cat.  People are strange, you know.
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2012, 04:53:16 AM »

Other than being unhappy that I have to be the one to worry about this guy's cat, I don't know whether I can set something up on the apartment complex's property. But I agree that as long as I'm providing for her needs and the owner isn't, she will probably come around. I feel bad for her, but she at least has an owner (of sorts). I have thought about contacting the owner of the apartment building (it's a small 4 unit building), but I think this guy has the potential to be nasty and I hate to start trouble with him.

I'll check out today and see if I can figure out a place for her to eat, and may move Tommy's actual shelter farther away from his feeding area (since he seems to sleep somewhere else). We have rain and snow in the forecast, so I need to get this sorted out soon.

Thanks for all of your ideas.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2012, 06:04:48 AM »

Yeah, it's sad.  But providing her shelter closer to her "home" and feeding her well away from Tommy may be what you need to do.

You can try cutting expenses by feeding her dry in the mornings and leaving it out all day.  Pick up the dish in the evening or you'll be attracting critters.
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2012, 11:48:22 AM »

Okay, I just redid all of the outside cat areas. I moved Tommy's feeding station to the far back corner of the yard, away from the garage. Then I set up the other area on the side of the garage closest to the apartments with straw bales enclosing a shelter and board propped against the garage for the food. I'm running out of places (and my back hurts from hauling patio blocks around) so this better help. MK is not out today - her owner is home today and I've not seen her anywhere so maybe Tommy will actually get some dinner tonight. I bought some basic Purina Cat Chow for her (he gets kitten kibble and wet) and will put wet out for her, too, when I know she's out.

Thanks, everyone. Most people would think I'm totally nutso, but somehow I think you all understand!

I will let you know what happens . . .
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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2012, 02:47:55 PM »

Catmom5 -- you are NOT a nutso -- you are a kind and generous person.  If there were more people like you, the world would be a better place.  And I know how it is -- I have a really nasty guys across the street -- I've been feeding his beautiful cat for years.  I can't call animal control because of her advanced age I know they would put her to sleep.  And he really hates me for feeding his cat.  There are times you just gotta do what you gotta do.  Bless you for your kindness.
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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2012, 04:05:41 PM »

Thanks - glad to know another person who cares too much to stand by and not do the right thing.

It was a joy to watch Tommy tonight. He was waiting for his dinner, but a bit confused when it wasn't in the usual spot. However, he found it quickly and ate very well. Then he stretched and sat on a patio stone nearby to take a long, relaxing bath. I was able to just watch and enjoy a happy cat. He did go back into the grasses, unusual for him. After hearing about the winter storm that's on its way, I went right out and bought him an extra-small cedar dog house so he'd have a spot to snuggle in IF he decides he wants to. Since it's supposed to start raining tomorrow, I'm going to put his food into the feeding station and he just might have to get himself into it. Hope he's hungry enough and feels safe enough to do that. Otherwise, he is not going to be as dry as he might be. At least the food will be protected.

So - at least for today, Tommy has a full tummy and a safe home. I guess that's the way you have to take loving these ferals - one day at a time.

And I so hope that MK's owner is rethinking just turning her loose. But if not, there will be food and shelter for her, too.

Thanks, macush, for taking care of your neighbor's cat. Bless your heart for doing that. I'm sure the cat would thank you, too.
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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2013, 05:59:02 AM »

Okay, another Tommy question for those of you who are familiar with ferals . . .

Because of the warm weather and very heavy rains this week, Tommy's feeding station (the very back of the yard) was basically "lake-front" and I had a hard time getting to it. I decided to move it to an area, very close to the house, next to the garage. He found it okay, but clearly is very nervous about having it so close to the house. Last night he was sitting where it used to be, and then I took the food out. He spent the whole time with his head in, body outside and looking around constantly to see if he was safe. My question is whether it would be smarter for me to buy some rubber boots and put the food back where it was (my yard will flood again when the spring rains come) or allow him to get used to having it where it is. I had considered creating an area with straw bales that I will be fencing in as soon as possible, but that leaves him very vulnerable to the house next door, the sidewalk and street and really calls attention to that area (when I get the fence in, it will be hidden more). So - boots or just letting Tommy cope?

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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2013, 06:02:23 AM »

I think since he went to the new spot to eat, I would leave it there. Hopefully he will realize it's still safe soon & being closer to the house may get him more used to you.
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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2013, 08:02:38 AM »

Thanks, Leslie. I saw footprints by the feeding station when I went to work this morning, too. Do you think it would be safe to put kibble out late at night since he's coming so early to eat? I am not getting up to put food out so early in the morning.
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