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kaffe
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« on: June 16, 2008, 08:31:03 PM »

Cats with kidney issues have special dietary needs - we all know that... but perhaps we should compile a list of commonly found ingredients in catfood, treats, medications and supplements that are contra-indicated for cats with renal issues.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 09:06:59 PM »

First on my list is acidifying diets becuase these could contribute to hypokalemia (low serum potassium, which further injures the kidney) and metabolic acidosis.

http://www.walthamusa.com/articles/wf83bro.pdf

Hypokalemia is most often observed in polyuric cats (2). In feline
patients it may indicate inadequate potassium intake and/or the
effects of an acidifying diet to promote kaliuresis.  Hyperkalemia is
uncommon except in the terminal phases of CRF and is often
associated with oliguria or anuria.

Hypokalemia has a variety of adverse effects, including a
reduction in renal function. In hypokalemic cats, the first step is to
switch to a diet with a high-potassium, low-acid content such as
those formulated for the treatment of feline CRF.

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Proteins, particularly those of animal origin, are rich in sulfurcontaining
amino acids; metabolism of these leads to hydrogen ion
generation. Consequently, many diets fed to cats provide a net load
of acid, which must be excreted by the kidney if acid–base balance is
to be achieved. Unfortunately, cats with reduced renal mass are less
able to excrete acid, potentially resulting in metabolic acidosis from
acid retention. This is generally associated with an increased anion
gap due to the accumulation of unmeasured anions, and the acidosis
may cause lethargy and inappetence.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 09:09:41 PM »

I am going to say DRY FOOD ... it is much harder than wet for them to digest .... my crf girl ended on wet and raw .. I did not do the LOW protein thing and her numbers went closer to normal Roll Eyes

excessive fish as these kitties are more prone to UTI issues
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 09:16:41 PM »

rx diets without retesting. They can over correct problems & need to be monitored.
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kaffe
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 11:23:58 PM »

Second on my list are benzoates or benzenes such as benzoic acid, sodium benzoate, metronidazole benzoate.  These - especially sodium benzoate - are often found in veterinary products such as pet toothpaste, dental oral wash, supplement gels - read labels very carefully before buying meds and products for a CRF kitty!  Two pertinent literature I've found on this topic: 

http://www.inchem.org/documents/cicads/cicads/cicad26.htm#PartNumber:2


INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMME ON CHEMICAL SAFETY

CONCISE INTERNATIONAL CHEMICAL ASSESSMENT DOCUMENT NO. 26




BENZOIC ACID AND SODIUM BENZOATE

4.3.2  Sodium benzoate

Sodium benzoate is also used in pharmaceuticals for preservation purposes (up to 1.0% in liquid medicines) and for therapeutic regimens in the treatment of patients with urea cycle enzymopathies
(see section 9).

8.  EFFECTS ON LABORATORY MAMMALS AND IN VITRO TEST SYSTEMS

In four cats given diets containing 0 or 1% benzoic acid (approximately 0 or 450-890 mg/kg body weight), aggression, hyperaesthesia, and collapse starting 14-16 h after feed uptake were seen at a dose level equal to 630 mg/kg body weight. The duration of the syndrome was about 18-176 h, and the mortality rate was 50%. The histopathological examination of the two cats that died revealed
degenerative changes in liver, kidneys, and lung, but no pathological findings in brain or spinal cord (Bedford & Clarke, 1972). The authors attributed the higher toxicity of benzoic acid in cats compared with other species to the low capacity of cats for glucuronidation

    (see section 7).
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http://www.ijpc.com/Sample?Article.cfm?SID=13


To Benzoate or Not to Benzoate: Cats Are the Question
Gigi Davidson, BS, RPh, DICVP
North Carolina State University
College of Veterinary Medicine
Raleigh, North Carolina



Although metronidazole hydrochloride is excreted as approximately 50% unchanged in the urine, metronidazole benzoate must be conjugated with glucuronide to facilitate elimination, as must
all benzene moieties. Cats, unfortunately, are metabolically deficient in the ability to conjugate with glucuronide. Normally, benzyl alcohol is rapidly oxidized to benzoic acid. In most species, benzoic
acid is then metabolized to hippuric acid and benzyl glucuronide (and in some species to ornithuric acid). In the cat, only hippuric acid is formed, because that species lacks adequate glucuronic acid conjugation capacity. This results in a decreased rate of metabolism and in cumulative toxic effects of the benzene moiety. For this reason, benzoates have caused many fatal toxicities in cats,
and many clinicians have been afraid to prescribe metronidazole benzoate for cats. The toxicity manifests as ataxia, hyperesthesia, fasciculations, blindness, aggression, coma, convulsions, respiratory failure,
and (ultimately) death.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 05:45:20 AM »

Great idea for a thread!
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 07:09:29 PM »

Fat is important to the diet of a CRF cat; but not all fats are equal.  The best and most helpful kind of fat for a kidney compromised kitty is fat that is high in Omega 3 and very very low in Omega 6, which can be kidney toxic and can actually hasten the progression of kidney failure (among others, see
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10711867

For this reason, avoid Flaxseed oil in formulating any diet for a CRF cat becuase it is very high in Omega 6.  For that matter, vegetable oils are not generally recommended for cats, who have limited ability metabolizing vegetable matter.  Use Fish oils, but NOT Cod Liver Oil (which is very high in Vit A). 
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 07:14:05 PM »

Thanks for the flax oil info Cato.  I didn't know that about Omega 6 being bad for their damaged kidneys.  I use the salmon oil and Vit E you recommended in your CRF recipes, but I feed half Wellness canned and it does have flaxseed in it.  Hope that just passes through and doesn't contribute much O-6 to their diet.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 07:53:21 PM »

Thanks, Cato.  Hope I don't have to change Elvis and Davey's food.  Your link led me to this study, which I'm still trying to understand regarding flaxseed and flax oil diets fed to rats in renal ablation model. 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7847360?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 08:12:57 PM »

Interesting contrast, JustMe!  I looked at a third study from a link on those pages and this may be why there is a difference between the two results:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9868261?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4&log$=relatedreviews&logdbfrom=pubmed

"However, the response of dogs with renal insufficiency to dietary manipulations frequently differs substantially from that of laboratory rodents, and the effects of dietary PUFA composition have been poorly characterized in dogs with chronic renal disease. "

It goes on to say n-3 PUFA's are good and n-6 PUFA's are bad for renal failure in dogs -  does that mean omega 3's and 6's?  I guess that makes sense because rats have a more plant based diets than dogs or cats.  Seems like cats would have an even worse reaction than dogs since they are strict carnivores.

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 10:25:01 PM »



It goes on to say n-3 PUFA's are good and n-6 PUFA's are bad for renal failure in dogs -  does that mean omega 3's and 6's?  I guess that makes sense because rats have a more plant based diets than dogs or cats.  Seems like cats would have an even worse reaction than dogs since they are strict carnivores.



Yes.  n-3 is Omega 3 and n-6 is omega 6.

The frustrating thing about these studies is that they still have not been able to come up with the optimum ratio for Omega 3 and 6.   A "rule of thumb" I keep in mind is this:  Omega 3 is a powerful anti-inflammatory; whereas Omega 6 is highly inflaming.  So, with any chronic illness like IBD or CRF or allergies and even cystitis, more Omega 3 and less Omega 6 in the diet would always be helpful.

Oh - I just re-read my original post and it sounded like flaxseed oil is really bad for cats - it is NOT, ordinarily... although it isn't really the best oil to give kitties.  Flaxseed oil contains a lot of omega 3 also; in fact, it has more n-3 than n-6.  However, the amount of n-6 is still uncomfortably high-ish.  If it is an ingredient in ONE of the commercial foods you are presently giving your cat, I wouldn't worry too much about it.  The intentio of my post was juts to warn against formulating a CRF home-made diet using flaxseed oil instead of fish oil.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 08:30:25 PM »

And isn't there something about cats and dogs being unable to use those forms of omegas in flax oil anyway?  I thought I remember reading that they don't really help them that much because they have to convert it to a form they can use and are very limited in how much they can convert.  (or maybe I have that mixed up with something else!)
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2009, 11:08:09 AM »

And isn't there something about cats and dogs being unable to use those forms of omegas in flax oil anyway?  I thought I remember reading that they don't really help them that much because they have to convert it to a form they can use and are very limited in how much they can convert.  (or maybe I have that mixed up with something else!)

Dogs relatively easily convert them ... it is harder for cats... the oil is the Easiest form... ie flaxseed whole or grd for a cat is useless and for a dog is hard to digest
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