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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2009, 11:45:20 AM »

Oops I meant to add that she has been getting 1/4 of a pepcid every morning and I did get an appetite stimulant (Cypro transdermal) but I haven't used it yet.  I figured it would be a last resort because it sounds like some kitties have a negative reaction to it.  Also, I'd like to see once we get the fluid system down how much that helps her appetite.  I've also seen that some people use slippery elm to sooth intestinal track so I want to investigate that, the vet didn't know anything about it.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2009, 12:37:10 PM »

Thanks everyone for the tips and support.  I took Lilah to the vet today to get the fluids, I didn't want to risk going another day.  They ok'd warming the bag in warm water although they gave it room temp and said she didn't fuss.  The needles they gave me are not Terumo, they are Monoject 20g, which is the only brand they carry.  Do I have to get a prescription from the vet to get the Terumo?  If so, how does that work?  Thanks again!

Whether you need a prescription for needles depends on in which state you live, I think. 
Here is lots of info on needles and other crf supplies that has helped me:

http://members.verizon.net/~vze2r6qt/supplies/AboutNeedles.htm

Main page:
http://members.verizon.net/~vze2r6qt/supplies/compare.htm#Top

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2009, 12:46:57 PM »

Do you have a prescription for the fluids?  If is syas "set", then you can fax a copy of your prescription to ThrivingPets.com or call them and that should be OK.  I didn't have a separate prescription for IV needles when I ordered them.  Monojet needles are a little thick to me... you'll want the Terumo.
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2009, 12:53:03 PM »

Oops I meant to add that she has been getting 1/4 of a pepcid every morning and I did get an appetite stimulant (Cypro transdermal) but I haven't used it yet.  I figured it would be a last resort because it sounds like some kitties have a negative reaction to it.  Also, I'd like to see once we get the fluid system down how much that helps her appetite.  I've also seen that some people use slippery elm to sooth intestinal track so I want to investigate that, the vet didn't know anything about it.

Yes, I used slippery elm bark.  It does help acidic tummies but you need to give it last think at night or very very early in the morning before the acids build up.  Also, remember not to give slippery elm with any other med becuase slippery elm will bind that.  Making a syrup from the powder of slippery elm is the best way to give to a kitty, I've found.  The recipe is in Tanya's web site - very easy to make.  You basicall set to boil a cup of water.  Bust open a couple of slippery elm capsules and pour the contents into the boiling water.  Let simmer, stiriing constantlyuntil liquid turns into the consistency of raw egg white.  Admister to kitty via oral syringe.  I used to give 5ml.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2009, 04:43:24 PM »

I live in Massachusetts and I think I saw somewhere that I do need an RX, I don't have one I got 1 bag of RLS and tubing and 10 needles from vet.  If I make the slippery elm syrup can I mix it w/baby food?  The syringe woould be yet one more thing she'd hate...
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 05:27:40 PM »

Fortunately, most cats don't mind the taste of slippery elm which has a slight ginger-y smell and taste.  But yes, it could be mixed with babfood (remember never to buy babyfood with onion or onion powder)
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2009, 06:43:17 AM »

Fotunately, most cats don't mind the taste of slippery elm which has a slight ginger-y smell and taste.  But yes, it could be mixed with babfood (remember never to buy babyfood with onion or onion powder)

I guess I don't have "most cats".   Wink  I've had 2 crf cats who loved babyfood, and absolutely refused to eat it when I mixed in slippery elm bark.  But it's always worth trying!
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2009, 08:13:08 AM »

Fotunately, most cats don't mind the taste of slippery elm which has a slight ginger-y smell and taste.  But yes, it could be mixed with babfood (remember never to buy babyfood with onion or onion powder)

I guess I don't have "most cats".   Wink  I've had 2 crf cats who loved babyfood, and absolutely refused to eat it when I mixed in slippery elm bark.  But it's always worth trying!

awww...  direct oral syringe method then and by-pass mixing into food  Cheesy  With just 5ml a pop, it just takes one quick squirt!
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2009, 12:15:00 PM »

All the cats, except the one who needs it the most, will eat the kibble that has the slippery elm sprinkled on it. Of course CJ doesn't like it and won't eat it! Undecided Figures, though, doesn't it? That's CJ!!
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2009, 12:30:59 PM »

I use a syringe and just squirt in the slippery elm syrup. Thunder usually only needs about  1.5 mls per dose and I can give her up to 5 mls a day if I need to. I make the syrup by adding 2 tbsp boiling water to 1/4 tsp slippery elm powder and let it sit until it thickens and cools off.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2009, 08:02:05 AM »

Cato's and Ned's recipes sound like they have very different potencies.  I haven't been able to find any reported side effects so I guess I should start w/the more dilute syrup (Cato's) and see how it goes? 
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