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« on: May 25, 2008, 06:04:14 PM »

Does anybody have information on this?  Transitioning a 16 or 18-year-old cat with slightly elevated kidney values to raw.  Would it be good or bad to do?  From what research I've found, I'm following the assumption that there should not be a problem with high protein if the cat's kidney values aren't high. 

This is something I've been thinking about since both these cats really like meat/poultry.  I give them cooked tidbits.  Even my 18-year-old who had his 4 canines removed loves meat. 

Would the raw upset their system?  Should I just stick with cooked food with supplements?  I'm just at the thinking stage right now.   Tongue 
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 06:25:30 PM »

don't feed it:

http://www.felinecrf.org/which_foods.htm#raw_food

do feed it:

http://felineinstincts.com/privacy/FelineCRFKidneyFailureDiet.html

I tend to agree more with the feline instincts site which says raw is good for early stage CRF. I think I'd try to stick with a CRF version of raw though.

But if you're not feeding anyone else raw, why not cook everyone one of the more moderate CRF recipes & see if they like it?  Or maybe you can just feed it to the elder cats & keep giving the youngin's their regular food. 

I have a feeling many of our older felines have been compromised from many years of poor diets (not that we knew that then), so it probably wouldn't hurt all of them to get on a mild CRF diet, unless some other specific illness is already present like diabetes.

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2008, 06:39:58 PM »

Petslave,

Thanks.  Lots to "chew on".   Tongue

I do feel more comfortable with a cooked diet.

That's a good point about compromise due to poor diet.  These poor guys were on dry most of their lives. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2008, 06:43:38 PM »

JustMe, I transitioned Kitt'n to raw when she was 19 and early stage 1 CRF.  She did fine until she got into stage 2 CRF and started to get constipated from it.  I tried adding fiber and gave her Lactulose, but ultimately I had to put her on the renal food (to control the phosphorus level) and canned with grains (for the fiber).  It's the lack of hydration in CRF kitties that causes the constipation, not directly from the lack of fiber in the food.  I saw a remarkable improvement in her within a few short weeks of getting her on the raw diet though and wish I could have continued it.  She actually didn't succumb to the CRF, it was heart disease, at the age of 20.5 years old.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 10:21:41 AM »

 Wink Personal experience here...

Kandie was nearly 15 and was at stage two crf at diagnosis ... The vet gave the usual SD stuff well Kandie would not eat so I researched .... found dry and wet that the vet confirmed were fine for her ... well 18 months later it was no longer working at keeping her 100% stable ... at about this time I got a new vet who does raw ... In the interim I tried homemade she hated all my recipes( about 6 months ) ... I asked the vet and for the next two yrs  she ate 90% raw to 50% raw depending on if my Mom was feeding her with canned ... Her numbers went DOWN she was at stage one but then crashed as animal s on natural regimes do just shy of 19 ....
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I now turn to raw first for chronic ailments and have seen two more animals come back to health when conventional medicine says oh no NOT no grain and raw / homemade
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2008, 01:58:52 PM »

Thanks, Nabiya and Sharky.  I've got a lot of research to do.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2008, 11:54:11 PM »

Here is a list of raw-experienced holistic vets.  They are all out west, but there are 3 at the bottom of the page that do phone consults.

http://www.rawadvantagepetfood.com/Default.aspx?tabid=17465
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2008, 08:18:20 PM »

Here is a list of raw-experienced holistic vets.  They are all out west, but there are 3 at the bottom of the page that do phone consults.

http://www.rawadvantagepetfood.com/Default.aspx?tabid=17465

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