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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2008, 08:30:41 AM » |
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I am interested in knowing if more kitties had hyperthyroid diagnosed after the poisoning....I think you said the renal failure was from the food?
Yes Carol, I believe Bennie was a victim of the pet food poisoning. She was eating a non recalled canned food for Senior cats, manufactured by you know who, that contained rice gluten. She suddenly began drinking large amounts of water and urinating heavily in November or December of 2006 (can't remember which month exactly). We are still waiting for a call from the vet about the hyperthyroid test. I'll post her results when we get them. Janet, Im sorry to hear Bennie is yet another victim of the pet food poisoning. It is interesing because our kitty who had been HYPO-thyroid for years ended up HYPER-thryoid in just a months time. As far as knowing what the kidney values are if she is hyper-thyroid, I cant remember if they put them on meds and then check the kidney values and I seem to remember the urinalysis tells alot also. You are absolutely right, hyper-thyroid makes the kidney reading appear better than they actually are, I wonder how many other pets were affected by the pet food but it was never discovered because the kidney readings appeared normal. I still remember our old vet telling us the animals they were getting in the emergency clinic had normal kidney readings, it was only when the did the urinalysis that showed the problem. Janet ,s far as water, Im wondering if you have tried setting out something like wide-rimmed coffee mugs with water in areas that Bennie frequents or walks by alot? We did that with our KiKi and it really worked great, she always like drinking out of people mugs and glasses which we would tell her not to but once we just set them out, she thought it was wonderful and did drink everytime she walked by. Maybe it would be enough to help Bennie get some extra fluids that he needs...I wish I could help more. Let us know how he continues to do. |
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 12:41:19 PM » |
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Janet My 18 year old was diagnosed with early CRF about 5 years ago. He has not had any treatment for it, although the vet talked last year about getting him onto special food (Science Diet k/d, no doubt, which he'd never eat) and eventually maybe sub-Q's.
I don't know what I'll do if it comes to sub-Q's. It would depend on how he reacts to it. Like you, I'm more concerned that he has a good quality of life and lots of love.
My 11 year old had hyperthyroidism, and last summer, we did the radioactive iodine treatment, which turned her around completely. She also has early CRF. I guess we'll see how that is going at her next checkup.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2008, 02:33:18 PM » |
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shibadiva,
You are so lucky you haven't been faced with having to give any treatment to your 18 year old.
Does your Kitty drink lots of water and use the litter box often?
Thanks for passing on your view on sub-qs. I believe it does depend on the cat. There are some cats that just can not tolerate being "messed with". (I happen to live with one!)
Sandi K,
Thanks for the tip on the cups. Actually, I do have plastic cups all over the house and she does use them often. She used to jump up on the counter and drink out of the sink but she hasn't been doing that much lately. I think she's gotten weaker and it's easier just to take a sip from a cup.
Thanks to all for your positive comments. You all have helped to relieve my guilt for not forcing the fluids on Bennie.
Still waiting for test results...
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2008, 02:36:45 PM » |
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The lab my vet uses only runs the free T4's a couple times a week, not daily. Maybe your vet's lab does that too, hence the wait. Frustrating.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2008, 05:25:31 PM » |
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Yes Carol, I believe Bennie was a victim of the pet food poisoning. She was eating a non recalled canned food for Senior cats, manufactured by you know who, that contained rice gluten. I would like to know the name of this food. The more info that can be gathered for reference, can help in getting the PFI to change its ways and make better food for our pets. |
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2008, 07:09:30 PM » |
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That's a good question, Mary. Janet, many of us had the same experience,
feeding foods that weren't recalled. You just say I think it may be connected
but don't know for sure if you don't mind sharing your experience.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2008, 09:09:56 PM » |
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I'm sorry I'm coming into this thread so late. Really hate to hear Bennie has not been doing well. I will pray that maybe something can be done to help Bennie out that will be easy on both of you. I, too, would like to know the name of the food, the more information we have the more lives we may be able to save.
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2008, 10:59:52 AM » |
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Got results of the special T4 test last night. High normal is 50, Bennie is 62. They told me they have seen some come back as high as 100....so
I just gave her her first dose of methimazole - twice a day for 2 weeks and then recheck.
Let's hope that her main problem is hyperthyroidism (the medication can help that greatly) and that she is not in kidney failure.
Thanks everyone for your positive thoughts.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2008, 03:28:49 PM » |
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I'm glad you got the results back, Janet, and have somewhere to go from here in treating Bennie. Continued good thoughts and prayers to the two of you that the hypert meds get her back on track again, and her kidneys are doing OK!
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2008, 04:42:13 PM » |
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Continuing to send prayers and purrs that this will help Bennie. It does sound like a good course of action with a probable good result.
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2008, 07:01:50 PM » |
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Janet saying a prayer that Bennie is much improved from the meds.
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2008, 09:41:50 PM » |
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Janet- Hope the meds make a big differnce for Bennie.
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2008, 09:42:51 PM » |
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Janet, let us know how it goes with the meds for Bennie.
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2008, 07:00:40 AM » |
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Well, we gave Bennie the hyperthyroid medicine last Friday. She hadn't been eating as well as usual prior to giving the meds but she stopped eating altogether after that. I tried to give her some baby food off my finger and she threw it up.
She finally started eating her wet food again last night.
She is pretty scared of me now..hiding under the desk and shaking in her little boots when she hears me come downstairs.
We are on the fence about attempting to restart the medicine. After taking several days to get her back to eating normally again, we sure don't want to upset that.
Also I found some interesting information put out by Washington State University regarding older cats with hyperthyroidism:
Older cats with hyperthyroidism often also have kidney disease. Treatment of these cats is a delicate balancing act. Hyperthyroidism can actually improve kidney function by increasing blood flow to the kidneys. Some cats with kidney disease will show a worsening of kidney function after treatment for hyperthyroidism.
Now doesn't that just completely confuse the issue?
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2008, 07:14:29 AM » |
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Yes, that is why I was relieved when my vet didn't want to start medications right away. My cat's values were only slightly elevated.
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