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« on: June 12, 2008, 03:10:19 AM »

I have an 18-year-old cat, diagnosed with beginnings of CRF a year ago.  He's been on renal diet (up to 3 months ago when he went off it completely), but is generally coping well.
However his joints are now very artritic and he's getting lame in the back hips.  My vet seems to think its all in the course of age and he's doing well still to be with us (in other words isnt really into giving much treatment) 
What are opinions on giving glucosamine etc supplements - are there any I should avoid which worsen CRF?  There's such a bewildering array of products out there I dont know which, if any, to get....
Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 04:25:18 AM »

Welcome to Itchmo forums, JoMax.

We've been using Cosequin for Cats for joint and bladder support for several cats with arthritis and CRF. 

http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products/animal/cosequin/cosequin_cat_FAQ.asp

What is  your cat eating now?  How is his weight?  Is vet treating him for CRF?

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 05:11:03 AM »

Many thanks for that, looks OK for him - here is a brief rundown in answer to your q (+ a bit of history as its always useful to compare notes with other CRF cat carers)
 
"What is he eating now?"  :  You know CRF cats! - anything I can get him to take an interest in at the particular time.  He ate the Waltham Royal Canin for 6 months very greedily, suddenly went off it.  He then ate Eukanuba for 5 days, then went off that too.  Hills KD makes him vomit.  I am UK, so we have different brands I suspect.

He also has bad lung congestion which flares up periodically, at which point getting him to eat is a nightmare as his eyes/nose etc get so gunged up he can't smell.  Many anti-bios seem to depress his whole system - esp Sinulox (which is I think Amoxyllin, then ideal one for lung infections) This congestion gets worse when stressed - which means its a vicious cycle of visits to vets which he totally freaks at - he has to be sedated every time we do a blood sample.

Most of the time now he'll eat Whiskers Senior (tho' often just the jelly!) and when all else fails its cooked organic chicken breast.

Have just spent the last 6 weeks persuading vet to get phosphate binders as I felt the lack of renal diet for 3 months was going to be detremental in that direction.  However reading some of the postings here, I'm less sure - altho' they took a blood sample to test phosphate levels yesterday prior to deciding whether to prescribe the alu-gel.

Previous to that asked vet to give fortekor which he's been on for 2 months - hard to tell if it helps, but he's a spirited cat for his age, enjoys patrolling & marking his territory and (unfortunately as more trips to vet) fights off other neighbourhood toms.

He's been a bit arthritic for a while, but last couple of weeks the back hips are really stiff (as conf'd by vet yesterday) so I started looking around for something to help that - we have a good net purchase site here which had about 10 different preparations, so I was trying to work out if there was any ingredients which would be adverse to his kidneys.

Thanks again
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 05:27:53 AM »

You might want to check out this thread if you haven't already and join some of the Yahoo groups.

 Lots of links there. 
http://itchmoforums.com/feline-chronic-renal-failure/feline-chronic-renal-failure-t4963.0.html;msg65572#msg65572

She's got loads of information here.  I think she is in the UK, too!
http://www.felinecrf.org/

I personally only have a little understanding of it.  There are others here who have much more understanding.

Some are even cooking for their CRF cats.
http://itchmoforums.com/making-your-own-pet-food-and-home-remedies/kaffe-kooks-crfcri-phosphorusprotein-load-of-various-homemade-recipes-t4757.0.html

Some people are feeding raw.
http://www.felineinstincts.com/articles/Felineinstinctsrenalfailureinformation.html

Some feed low protein/some high protein (depending on how progressed the disease is)
It's very confusing.

Maybe you could post some or your lab values when you get the blood test results?

I do think a wet food is better than dry for a CRF cat so he gets as much moister as possible in his diet.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 08:11:48 PM »

what Just me posted ...

www.trixsyn.com my crf girl used this for arthritis and it greatly helped her ...
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 05:15:43 PM »

Thanks for the info on the Trixsyn. My IBD (non-CRF) kitty Bo ended up at the ER on Christmas after vomiting 11 times over about 9 hours from Cosequin. Another friend with an IBD kitty - her kitty got diarrhea from Cosequin and I know she is looking at hyaluronan so I'll forward to her.  For Bo it was more preventative as he only has a little arthritis in one knee.
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