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« on: December 11, 2007, 03:05:50 PM »

Just viewed this news story at the video link below-to my surprise and anger, I had to take away another toy--the small bear shown in the video.  This isn't a new toy--he's had it for over 2 years--long before our eyes were opened to what MIC means.

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=2BFAD744316C63739DD3978DA03641F1?contentId=5125507&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

"Over the last few months, toxic lead levels have prompted the recall of several children's toys. However, lead and other dangerous chemicals could also be lurking in your pet's playthings or food dish. FOX 2's Lila Lazarus puts some pet toys to the test and looks at the danger that lead exposure poses to pets."

The story is from Fox News in Kansas City.
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 04:01:15 PM »

Don't you just feel awful taking away the toys menusux?
I can't believe what I have taken away and with the holidays coming, my cats are always in receipt of toys from friends and relatives.  They mean well, but I'm not taking any chances.  Right now we have cardboard boxes, paperbags and a string from a bakery box which comes out at "special" play time......they would swallow it like spaghetti if I left it out................

This is the PITS
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2007, 04:18:26 PM »

I have this video posted on Pet News. anyway, the dog dish they show is the very dish i have been feeding My dogs from. I was horrified.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2007, 04:57:08 PM »

One of the hardest things about the pet toy and pet product problem is that there's almost nowhere to find toys not MIC.  My other 4 never had one toy that was MIC--you weren't tripping over them or had no other toy options.  I don't think MIC toys were even in our stores.

When I was buying toys for them, the toys were made in the US, Germany, England, Spain or Japan.  In the days when the squeakers sometimes came out, I solved the problem by buying baby toys instead.  But now comparable baby toys are also MIC!

You also feel angry because it seems like the buyer has been painted into a corner--either buy MIC or buy nothing--because there's nothing much else made available.  It's like you're almost forced to buy from them, whether you want to or not. 

This is the second time I've had to take a toy--he had one of those W-M green monsters and had that for a while, too--way before we all know what we do now.  Between that and what we don't buy anymore in the way of treats and so on, I think if he could talk he'd ask me if we're back in the days of the Depression.  Wink

Trudy, is your dogs' dish going to the same place as the small bear?  Sorry that both of us got a nasty surprise from the video.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2007, 05:01:25 PM »

I watched the video and I see one of the balls that our new kitten had played with earlier.  She has had intestinal problems ever since we've had her.  They said that can be a symptom of lead poisoning, how do you test for lead poisoning in a kitten, does anyone know?  And is there any list anywhere that shows the toys that have already been tested and found to have lead?  Also where would I go locally to have my kittens toys tested?

And I wish we knew what store they purchased those toys at and where is the recall?  Thank you Menusux, what would we do without you. 

Any answers you can provide is much appreciated.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2007, 05:12:44 PM »

Sandi,

You'll need to call your vet and talk to him/her about the toy and testing:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003360.htm

Blood lead levels is a test that measures the amount of lead in the blood.

Know where I purchased the small bear toy and the "bad" duck also came with it.  He never cared for the duck but really loved the bear.  The problem is that I think I've seen these toys at more than one large pet store chain.  Can tell you that the ones I had came from Pet Supplies Plus, but don't know where Fox News bought theirs.

This is both frightening and angering--do you realize that in the short amount of time since I saw the video and posted it here, there are 3 of us who have found there are either bad toys or bad food dishes from the story?

I've yet to see a list of toys anyone tested--sure wish someone would get one going. 

Can also tell you that I took a peek in on W-M yesterday--they're so close to the supermarket, so I stop there to see what's going on in the Pet Dept. 

All of the toys like the toxic green monster are gone.  They've been replaced with other latex toys of different shapes. No idea if W-M has a new MIC supplier after the fallout from the other toys, but it does look like it. 

We all know W-M didn't do a recall of the toys Consumeraffairs tested, but it seems that the ExperTox findings somehow did convince them to take those toys out of stores and get different ones--possibly from a different supplier.

Know we'd all feel bad if it was something of ours we had to do this with, but also think we all feel worse because we have to take these things away from the pets who enjoyed them.  At least we can understand why we need to do this--pets and kids can't.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 05:19:16 PM »

Well, I did post but don't know where it went?
Menusux, Yes, the dog bowl went right out the door. And all my cute cat dishes are made the same. Also, i did a lead test on the bowls and it didn't show up. i think you have to scrape the finish off first.
My cats toys and dogs balls are all going too.
And My favorite cats toy is the sparkle ball. he fetches it and loves it so much. now i have to get rid of it. Darn, that drives Me nuts. and to think My dogs have been eating out of that bowl for a very long time.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2007, 05:24:23 PM »

Sandy K. , go to off topic and look at the link[ tape] called Lead. I thinks it lead 101 and describes the sympoms of lead .
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 05:26:06 PM »

Menusux, You're right- 3 of us already. And We are looking every day. I hope everyone gets to see these links.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 05:33:02 PM »

Trudy,  you mentioned sparkle ball, did they come back positive also?  Our kitten plays with sparkle balls too.  She also plays with those Kurli-Q's, has anyone seen anything about those?

This is a link at AVMA just put out on 11-30 you might want to read.  Its amazing, they have no problems with Epertox's finding of lead.....I swear this is all so confusing and upsetting to me.  I just lost our cat in March to pet food poisoning and now Im having to freak out about our new kitten.

http://www.avma.org/press/releases/071130_lead_in_toys.asp
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 05:38:42 PM »

This is another recently published story about pet toys and lead from Steve Dale:

http://www.goodnewsforpets.com/petworld.asp?ID=940
 
Pet World with Steve Dale December 11, 2007
 
First Children’s Toys, Are Pet Toys Next?

Reports in the news of unsafe levels of lead in children’s toys made in China, and the resulting recalls, have prompted media investigations of pet toys. Fox News has been out in front, with stories on the subject airing in Miami, Denver, Chicago and other markets. It turns out, lead has been found in pet toys in levels exceeding the safety standard set for children by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC). (The CPSC has no safety standards for pets.)

Perhaps the most glaring example found, so far, in a pet toy was shown in a report which aired in Chicago on November 27. The story, “Puppy Poisoning,” was reported by Mark Saxenmeyer. According to testing conducted by Trace Laboratories, based in Palatine, Ill., a tennis ball for dogs – called Paws ‘N Claws – had lead levels of 27,200 parts per million. The standard assumed potentially dangerous by the CPSC is anything more than 600 parts per million.

“This seemed to be very troubling to us,” Saxenmeyer says. He added the lab didn’t find lead throughout the ball, but rather only in the ink used for the Paws ‘N Claws logo.

Veterinary toxicologist Dr. Steven Hansen, director of the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center in Urbana, Ill, added, “Yes, that is a very, very high number. While scary, because the lead is concentrated in the ink, it’s not quite as scary as it could be.”

Mitchell Sas, general manager of Trace Laboratories, agrees the threat is somewhat lessened because the lead is so concentrated. Still, he asks, “What if children pick up this wet tennis ball (wet after being in the dog’s mouth), and then touch their own mouths?” He says it’s an additional cause for concern, aside from the safety to the dog.

The tennis ball was purchased at a dollar-type discount store, and the manufacturer could not be located (by either Fox News or this reporter) for comment.

Lead poisoning does occur in pets, just as it does in people. “We used to see lead poisoning more frequently because of lead paint – either people painting with lead paint (until it was controlled in 1977) or people doing rehab and scraping off the old lead paint,” says Dr. Sheldon Rubin, a Chicago veterinarian. “We still see lead poisoning only occasionally, it’s a sporadic problem. But we’re not looking routinely as I now believe we should.”

Indeed when dogs or cats have seizures, lead poisoning is often ruled out as a cause (among many other possibilities). However, with general symptoms such as diarrhea, vomiting and lethargy – lead poisoning is rarely considered. Rubin is saying that it should be.

For the Chicago Fox News report, 15 pet products were chosen at random. Most of the products were toys, however, producers also had a ceramic dish tested. The dish contained 2,890 parts per million of lead, far exceeding the acceptable level according to the CPSC.

However, Hansen points out that measuring lead is quite complex. Just because the lead content in the dish itself is high, it may or may not mean a potentially dangerous amount will leach out into the pet’s food or water – unless this factor is specifically tested for (which it was not, according to Sas).

A glow-in-the-dark flying disc toy was also implicated in the Fox investigation for high lead levels. However, all of the other toys, from a rubber chicken to squeaky toys, tested negative for lead or had trace amounts barely measurable and considered safe.

Rubin has long expressed concern about ceramic bowls for pets made overseas. Sas adds increased lead might actually make the glaze “shinier” and therefore more appealing to consumers, and could lower the cost as well.

Rubin says he assumes if a product is made in the U.S., it’s safe. Hansen agrees this assumption is logical but questionable. Saxenmeyer points out a dose of reality that it’s not always easy to find pet products made in the U.S. Based on his experience, the vast majority of products at most pet stores are made abroad, and most of those in China. However, boutique pet stores do have lots of products made in America.

Rubin says he’s advising clients with dogs who are chewers, and ingest parts of toys, to consider alternatives made in America. Since latex toys are sometimes implicated with having high lead quantities, avoiding latex toys is probably a good idea. Latex toys may be dangerous to dogs under the best of circumstances because they can be so easily shredded and ingested, which can cause an obstruction.

Hansen says while there’s no evidence, so far, to advise avoiding all pet toys made overseas, there’s nothing wrong with consumers being as informed as possible. “Pet owners have the right to ask questions,” he says. “And the right to expect the same standards met which are met for children’s toys. I hope manufacturers offer due diligence and test their products (especially those manufactured overseas) and make the results public. It’s the responsible course of action.”

Even better, according to Sas, pet products should be tested at an independent laboratory (such as his company’s). He says testing independently adds credibility, and the cost is around $1,000 for a lot of 10,000 parts. Once a supplier’s products are deemed safe – in the future spot testing can suffice. He says Trace Laboratories will even test for consumers for around $400, depending on several factors, including how many toys there are.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2007, 05:44:46 PM »

I haven't looked at Your links yet, i will. i know a while ago they said something about the sparkle balls being full of lead. I used to buy Mine at the cats shows and most things there come from China. It's something about the coloring of the balls.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2007, 05:54:46 PM »

This is so overwhelming with the whole spectrum of products, pet and human, looking bad.  I just posted about my oil-filled MIC space heater from last year dying.  I'll be hunting for a US made one, but wonder if there are any.

You might have some luck finding US made human toys that your pets could use.  Poco uses human stuffed toys.  (I mean stuffed toys for humans, not stuffed with humans.  Wink )  I just looked at the tag on his little Pooh Bear, and though I was excited at first to see 'USA' in big letters, that turned out to be just where the manufacturer is headquartered.  In smaller letters it says, 'Made in China'. 

The colors of the fabric dye are intense yellow and red. Reminds me of the duck.  Guess I'll throw it away. He did not like it much, anyway. The dyes probably taste funny.  He prefers his old white Teddy bears.
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2007, 06:43:59 PM »

That testing looked so fast and easy.  Unless the testing scanner costs a million dollars, why aren't companies testing products before accepting them from the manufacturer?  Oh, yea, I forgot, they don't care. 
I'm slowly replacing my dog's toys with ones made in the US.  Doesn't seem like we have much to chose from.

West Paw makes cat and dog stuffies and chewies in Montana.  Some are made of recycled pop bottles.
http://www.westpawdesign.com/articles/acat_the-west-paw-story.html

Planet Dog makes non-toxic chewies in the US.  Unfortunately the stuffies are made in China.
http://www.planetdog.com/category.aspx?categoryID=24&startpage=0

Simply Fido makes cute organic stuffies but even with their oversight and testing I'm still afraid of China.
http://www.simplyfido.com/about_us/index.shtm
Simply Fido toys are made safely in China at the Simply Fido facility in Shanghai. This facility is under the direct management of Simply Fido's international offices and practices a low-eco impact manufacturing process. They directly manage the quality of their products from the raw materials to the final packaging to ensure their safety. Simply Fido toys use only OCIA certified organic cotton, undergo toxicity testing and environmental analysis in Germany, and comply with European and US standards for toy safety.

You can also buy these products at www.onlynaturalpet.com and shoprobbinspetcare.com

Maybe we should start a pinned list for US made pet toys?
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2007, 07:34:13 PM »

I just went back a watched the video again.

All the cute cat dishes with the pawprints have gone in the trash.

WTF???

Now I find out I was poisoning my cats with the food bowls Angry Angry

There have been many days since the recall where I have asked myself if I would continue to be a pet parent...........I don't know anymore.  I've NEVER imagined my life without one...........
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