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« on: April 27, 2008, 06:57:45 AM » |
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My Pom has developed pancreatic issues. She is a backyard breeder puppy mill rescue. My vet thinks it is probably genetic, because of all the inbreeding. I tend to agree with him. (missing enzymes, etc.) Where we do not agree , is he wants me to feed her Purina EN. It is a prescription food, only available from a vet. OK, she was very ill. Took her right in of course, she was treated immediately, and along with a probiotic powder, I was given Purina EN. I had no choice but to offer it to her. She would not eat anything! She likes it, and eats it. The ingredients are water, beef, and brewers rice, and something called 'egg product'?, in that order. Plus allot of words I cannot pronounce. She has improved to being quite normal, all systems go right now. She was on a wonderful diet of home cooked using fresh turkey. However, fresh turkey is no longer available in any stores around here. She cannot tolerate any other meat. Frozen turkey or frozen ground turkey, make her sick. Just fresh turkey. Believe me, I have tried. The EN contains beef, but, she does not react negatively to it at all. This is the first store bought dog food in my home since Minky and Julie died from toxic dog food. If anyone is using this food, or has any information on it, I would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks. PMM
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lesliek
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 07:07:47 AM » |
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PMM- I don't have any experience with this 1, but my cousin's older rottie has severe pancreatitis & has to stay on RC low fat. If the Purina EN works,I would stick with it.Sometimes you just can't feed what you would prefer them to be on.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 07:20:59 AM » |
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I had to put my Schipperke on Eukanuba's version when he had a pancreatitis attack, and it worked well for him. After a case of it, I moved him to Wellness canned, and he's doing OK on that.
But if your little one is going to be susceptable to recurring attacks, you may just want to keep using the Purina formula. The big key is low fat, so if you can find a better food to transition to that matches the fat level, that should theoretically work, if she will eat it. I hope she recovers fully!
Ingredients don't look all that bad for a vet food, no meat by-products at least!
"Water sufficient for processing, beef, brewers rice, egg product, coconut oil, gum arabic, tricalcium phosphate, choline chloride, calcium carbonate, salt, potassium chloride, vitamin supplements (E, A, B-12, D-3), L-Lysine monohydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, niacin, calcium pantothenate, ascorbic acid (Vitamin C), zinc sulfate, biotin, ferrous sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, manganese sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper sulfate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, calcium iodate, sodium selenite."
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 07:23:41 AM » |
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lesliek Thank you for your reply. You are, of course, absolutely correct. I have no choice, and this food, so far, is working for her. So sorry to hear about your cousins Rottie.  I hope he is doing well. It is such a wicked disease.  Thanks for the reality check!;) I really did need it! PMM
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 07:31:28 AM » |
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petslave wrote
"Ingredients don't look all that bad for a vet food, no meat by-products at least!"
Also no soy, corn or wheat, etc. But, as I am not sure in this area at all, I had to ask for input. Thank you so much for replying. PMM
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catmom5
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 10:39:29 AM » |
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Most everyone knows my old girl, CJ (cat) has been on a vet prescription diet for nearly 2 years now and everytime I try to get her on something else there is a problem. So, while the ingredients list makes me cringe and the manufacturer, too, it's working for her and I will not be trying to get her on something I like just because I like it. Lesson learned here . . . Good luck with your pup. Hope you can find something that works for you. catmom5
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2008, 11:21:21 AM » |
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My conventional ( ie old ) vet used to recommend purina RX over sd ... I used the NF canned when Kandie had a CRF episode .. worked well for what it needed..
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PMM
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 06:27:08 AM » |
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I appreciate all the input. The issue being, I do not dare put her on anything else. Even if I could, I do not have a clue what it would be. I gather from the posts that this food can be used long term. It came with a booklet that gave me the impression it was not for long term use. But, my vet said it was OK. As those of you have posted that your pets are on this type of special diet, and doing well, I guess I can put that fear to rest. Thanks again for the input. It is greatly appreciated. Karee has a major surgery coming up. A final attempt to repair the brutal damage that was done to her. She has to be at the top of her game. PMM
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 03:02:27 PM » |
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I think you are doing the right thing, too, sticking to the EN. Poco has Cushings now and he can't handle fat as well as he could, though his condition isn't as touchy as your Pom's sounds. Pancreatitis attacks are horrible and dangerous so I'd be sticking with what works.
By the way, I had a neighbor with a dog that was prone to pancreatitis and she also did well with beef.
That is wonderful that you are giving Karee a loving home and I'll pray that the surgery is a big success and that she recovers very fast.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 03:23:31 PM » |
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PMM: I'm so sorry that your poor dog has pancreas issues - nasty stuff that one and I also want to thank you for opening your heart and home to this baby.
I too find the ingredients of Purina EN to be "OK." It is surprisingly better than most Rx's diets. The only "bad-y" in there is menadione, but that is 3rd from LAST ingredient, so there's very very little of it. The actual food in there are beef, brewer's rice and egg product (good and simple) .... all the rest are supplements, vitamins and minerals. I like that it has coconut oil which helps in the transport and breakdown of fats.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 08:21:17 PM » |
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I had to start feeding my pup EN due to terrible diarrhea issues when using any other brand. I'm not pleased with the fact it has menadione and wish they would not include it in the food but I don't feel I have much of a choice. She seems to be doing well on it. I am pleased that I haven't found hair or other junk embedded in the food like I have other brands
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 04:27:47 AM » |
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I'm also in the situation where I have to feed a prescription food, hate doing it, but my sick cat does well on it and not on others. I hear ya, but do what's working for your puppy. Hard to feed something you'd rather not be feeding but if it's working, it's probably best to stick with it (CJ says "yeah, don't be messing with food cause it makes us feel crummy!") catmom5
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