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Author Topic: HP Ink Costs More than Human Blood  (Read 5426 times)
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3catkidneyfailure
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« on: December 30, 2009, 08:12:48 AM »

http://techxav.com/2009/12/30/hp-ink-blood/

HP Ink Costs More Than Human Blood [Graph]

This is a visual to keep in mind when selecting your next printer, from a group of teens
on Twitter in the age bracket of 11 to 15  Grin Grin Grin Roll Eyes  Think Lexmark, Epson instead ...
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2009, 02:12:25 AM »

I know, this makes me very cross. I bought a little HP home scanner/printer/copier for A$75 in 2005. The black ink cartridge costs $27  to replace and if I buy the pair (black & colour) it's nearly $40! If I add up the times I've done that...
Even recycling cartridges and getting them refilled costs about $20 for a black ink it's hardly worth the special drive to the recycler.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2009, 11:09:12 AM »

Cats Mother - same here. Have a laser printer, reg. price $149.00 bought on sale for $79 4 yrs ago. One store the toner cartridge is $99 (more than I paid for the printer) and at a place that refills them it is $48. On amazon you can find it for $36.00.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 11:14:46 AM »

I have a photo printer.  If regular HP ink costs more than blood, then the prices per ounce on the photo grade ink must be more than top-grade champagne for New Year's Eve!  (Think in the $100+ per champagne bottle range.) And these suckers use six different cartridges, five colors plus black.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2009, 11:31:31 AM »

catbird your prices - golly jumpin grasshoppers! Reminds me of the lil MP3 players. When they first came out all you needed was an ear phone. Now they have docking platforms with speakers so you can hear the music you have paid to download and separate carrying cases and other accessories. If you have a stereo at home already......just another way to make more money off of an original idea but adding more and more stuff to the first piece of (stuff) - the original item already.
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2010, 09:38:45 PM »

Here's a hint to save ink.  Go into your printer settings and
choose "Fast Draft" for simple jobs. Prints at warpspeed in a
lighter tone.  For more official jobs, you'll want to switch back
to "Normal."  Makes a cartridge last way longer.
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2010, 04:11:20 AM »

catbird your prices - golly jumpin grasshoppers! Reminds me of the lil MP3 players. When they first came out all you needed was an ear phone. Now they have docking platforms with speakers so you can hear the music you have paid to download and separate carrying cases and other accessories. If you have a stereo at home already......just another way to make more money off of an original idea but adding more and more stuff to the first piece of (stuff) - the original item already.

lol - exactly JJ - wasn't the point of it that you could carry your music with you anywhere? If you've got to cart all that extra cr@p around you might as well stay home and listen to it on a decent pair of speakers!
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2010, 06:38:49 AM »

Sorry, all, the graph on the web server not available at this point, Jan 2, 2010, according to the notice. But the point is blood,
vodka, and oil (among other substances) are cheaper than HP ink. Ridiculous.
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2010, 07:27:44 AM »

I have had 2 Lexmark all-in-one printers and would never buy one again.  The first one broke, still under warranty, and they replaced it with the identical refurbished one, which immediately broke (same problem with it).  They were also ink hogs, much worse than my current HP all in one.  In my personal experience, the Lexmark ink was more expensive in the long run than HP.

After reading how some printer companies rigged machines to say no ink when cartridges still had ink in them, I learned I could "trick" the printers by resetting and making believe I had put in new cartridges when it gave me the "empty ink cartridge" message.  It would still keep printing many pages before it really ran out of ink.

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12554-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=22819&messageID=432275&start=0

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/39806

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=227208&messageID=2264674
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2010, 07:57:34 AM »

Thanks, JustMe. I have never had a Lexmark printer. Just going off ink cartridge pricing and that my daughter has had good luck.

Epson owners have any input?
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2010, 01:36:36 PM »

Have a Samsung Laser Printer. Toner is expensive but you have 2,000 - 3,000 pages you can print off of one toner. Price ranges from $48 - $99.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2010, 03:44:21 PM »

I have had 2 Lexmark all-in-one printers and would never buy one again.  The first one broke, still under warranty, and they replaced it with the identical refurbished one, which immediately broke (same problem with it).  They were also ink hogs, much worse than my current HP all in one.  In my personal experience, the Lexmark ink was more expensive in the long run than HP.

After reading how some printer companies rigged machines to say no ink when cartridges still had ink in them, I learned I could "trick" the printers by resetting and making believe I had put in new cartridges when it gave me the "empty ink cartridge" message.  It would still keep printing many pages before it really ran out of ink.

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12554-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=22819&
messageID=432275&start=0

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/39806

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=227208&messageID=2264674


I've never rigged my computer to override the msg however I do just keep printing until it runs dry. I think the msg I get says have a new cartridge on standby this one is getting low - When I'm feeling really too mean  to replace it yet and I have a letter I must send snail mail I highlight the page and use indigo from the colour cartridge! Roll Eyes

Sorry to get off topic 3Cat but real life conversations go that way too. I think the point JJ & I had in mind was how technology cos. snare you in with a cheap base product then make money out of you for the rest of your life! - the cheap initial product being just the hook to ensnare you - which kind of came across to me as the underlying point of your OP.

You know, the old saying "written in blood" could start to become true - next time people go to donate blood they might be asking to keep a bottle for themselves for the printer lol. Vodka wouldn't work, it's transparent.  Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 08:51:48 PM »

I have a Compaq IJ300 printer that I have been using for 13 years now without any problems, and my son used it for a couple years before giving it to me.  Not an expensive printer, but very reliable (hope I haven't jinxed myself by saying that!  Roll Eyes  )  It uses Lexmark ink cartridges, which are very expensive, but the cartridges last a very long time and I do a pretty fair amount of printing.  My daughter has a HP computer and printer and complains all the time that the ink cartidges don't last very long.  They are less expensive than the Lexmark, but I think she spends more because they contain much less ink.  I found an on-line site to buy remanufactured Lexmark cartridges and they were much less expensive.  So far (have only used one at this point) they work just fine and seem to be lasting as long as the Lexmark. 
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