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« on: November 10, 2007, 12:56:27 PM » |
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Has anyone tried the top entry litterbox for a fat cat? My cats kick out an enormous amount of litter from the litterbox. No mat has even been able to contain it (plus one of the cats pees on the mats if they're there) so I thought I would try this kind of box. But I have an 18.5 lb cat. I measured him and technically, he will fit through the hole but I'm wondering if other people with large kitties have successfully used this product?
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kittylyda
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2007, 02:23:34 PM » |
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CBG, I have a pet sitting business and a client of mine has 2 Clevercat litterboxes. One of her cats is pretty large and even though he fit through the hole in the lid, he obviously didn't much care for it because soon after they switched to these boxes he started urinating on the floor. (He was vet-checked and it didn't have anything to do with a bladder or kidney problem). While I was taking care of her cats, I took the lids off of both boxes and that seemed to fix the problem for a while. He began to use the box again but still will sometimes pee on the floor right outside the box. My theory is that even with the lid off, the sides are so high that a big cat can't really move around comfortably in the box. For such a deep box, it really isn't wide or long enough for a large cat. Even though other litterboxes may be about the same size, I think the high walls don't permit them enough space to move around the way they can in a more shallow box. Just a theory based on my experiences with one large cat. I have other clients with small cats and they do fine w/the Clevercat box.
~kittylyda
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 09:31:15 AM » |
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Thanks for the advice. Since the big guy sin't really the litter-kicker, maybe I'll keep the traditional style box for him and hope the other ones try out the Clevercat.
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GoingNUTZoverthis
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 08:15:29 AM » |
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I tried one of these boxes for a while because Geisha is cornor of the box squatter that with just a regulat lid box gets in all in the seem and with plain box without a lid she tends to elevate as she pittles like she doesn't like it hitting her butt and tends to stream it on the floor. LOL
Quit using it for fear of older, larger cat getting injured jumping in and out, also because the litter tracking seemed to be just as bad if not worse.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 08:31:33 AM » |
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NUTZ-- I had the same problems with Phantom as you did with Geisha (corner squatter who doesn't like to get her rear dirty.) After trying just about every box on the market, I found a high-sided extra-large box that worked for Phantom. It has a really nice low opening for getting in and out. Maybe that would work for Geisha too, if you haven't found anything else yet. http://itchmoforums.com/write-a-pet-product-review/high-sided-litter-boxes-t3217.0.html
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If 3 of your cats were torties, you'd be crazy too.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 09:28:25 AM » |
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catbird, glad I am not the only one with a little priss  she totally my Diva cat. I read your blog from the link and was chuckling, boy kitties are something else. Geisha will go number 2 in front of the box if she feels it is not clean enough for her use. GEEZ. For about the first year of her life she would pee in the litter box and do her other business in the tub. Switched from Feline Pine to clumping litter and that behavoir stopped thank goodness. Where did you find that Catty Corner box at? Right now I have a Buddha dome and she still manages to pittle right on the seam of a round box................UGH. Would love to try a Catty.
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catbird
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 09:48:15 AM » |
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NUTZ, I sent you a PM with info. catbird
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 10:01:58 AM » |
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My Tucker is a big boy, 18 lbs. My cats use both a high-sided litter box and a box made out of a large but shallow plastic storage container. It is probably only 6" deep but Tucker uses it exclusively. Litter tracking is not a big issue either, because it is large enough that he can't kick all the litter out during his excavating. He has never gone outside it. The storage container is a http://www.sterilite.com/Category.html?Section=Storage&ProductCategory=39# the 1956 model.
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Why do cats always jump on your lap with their claws out? Especially when you are wearing shorts?
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 04:05:32 PM » |
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I'm using a storage box about the size of that Sterlite 1958, and my 3 boys, all power pee-ers, still manage to go over the side sometimes. What a mess. I've been looking for one with even higher sides, but can't seem to find any other storage containers with all the right qualities, not too tall, not too many indentations or convolutions. I can't do the covered box thing because I'm just way too busy (lazy) to take the darn top off to scoop twice a day.
My youngest boy cat is an in-front-of-the-box pooper too--he gets in, scratches around, then gets out & goes on the floor. He spends lots of time trying to cover it afterwards too. He uses the box nicely when I have a fine grained litter (regular clay litter is just about too coarse for him), but I can't afford to use anything but wood pellets, so I just have to clean up after him, poor guy.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 05:13:31 AM » |
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petslave,
That's to funny you have a front of the box pooper too. I never could figure out when she was a baby why she would get in the course litter to pee but had to go else where to poop. Not sure if she might of assc the litter box and that kind of litter to the bacterial runny poop problem she had when I first got her. Who knows, they take to much energy to figure out easier to just love them.
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kittylyda
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 05:23:22 AM » |
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« Last Edit: March 07, 2008, 05:27:47 AM by kittylyda »
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petslave
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 11:46:21 AM » |
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Thanks kittylyda! I like your idea of making 2 boxes from one - great money saver!
I really like how big those boxes are & the nice cut down entry, but don't think they would work with the spray boys. For some reason all my cats get in the box & pee right where they climb in with no digging (and the litter right there is always soaked compared to other side). So with a cut down box, the sprayers will end up shooting pee all over the floor in front of box. The top loading box would be great, but I don't think my fatty manx with arthritis can get in that one.
The whole litter & box thing has been a constant problem for me for many years. With 6 cats, a big feeding bill, a tiny house with a dog-free zone big enough for only ONE box (yikes!), well, not ideal conditions for a great litter box set up. It's like the biggest pet care thorn in the side for me. Litter cost, weight of very large amount of used litter for garbage pick up and perfect box design....I'll never get it figured out.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 12:08:08 PM » |
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Phantom is a sprayer too when she gets in a snarky mood (it's not urinary tract problems; she's been checked). The high-sided box has fixed that problem with her, too. It's high enough that even if she sprays, it stays in the box. Of course, she's a 10 1/2 lb. female, not a big tall male.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2008, 12:36:59 PM » |
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I think a big part of my problem is that I use bulky litter so even though it's a tall box, it's half full of litter, so the sides are actually not very tall when the boys get in. I thought about getting a big box to put my current box in because it's perfect other than needing another 4 inches height.
I've tried just about every litter made on earth, & my current choice is completely based on cost. Clumping litters just dont' work with this many cats, have to refill box almost completely every day after taking out all the pee clumps! Runs into big money by end of month.
I've been using wood pellets which are great in that I don't have to change the one box for 3.5 days with 6 cats using itm which is amazing. Very cheap, box empties nice, no pee in bottom, sawdust absorbs better than anything & NO smell!! But, very very heavy when wet.
So now I'm using an odd combo I just came up with last week - layer of pellets on bottom then white wood shavings on top. Seems to be doing OK, lightweight, the pellets absorb the pee (the shavings alone don't), and the chips are easier on their cute little soft paws.
Enough about my bizarre litter box set up - hope everyone else has a more tidy & pleasant kitty toilet setting!
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 03:43:48 PM » |
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Thanks kittylyda! I like your idea of making 2 boxes from one - great money saver!
I really like how big those boxes are & the nice cut down entry, but don't think they would work with the spray boys. For some reason all my cats get in the box & pee right where they climb in with no digging (and the litter right there is always soaked compared to other side). So with a cut down box, the sprayers will end up shooting pee all over the floor in front of box. The top loading box would be great, but I don't think my fatty manx with arthritis can get in that one.
Sometimes my ancient, arthritic cat Peanut will do the same thing, get in the box right at the low entry and pee right there. The same thing happens, some pee ends up outside the box. But when I switched to these boxes it started happening a lot less. Of course Pea is female and she is a small cat so not so many problems with spraying and probably not as much pee in general as with your boys.
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