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Author Topic: Verus cat food and Health Extension holistic cat food any opinions  (Read 12521 times)
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« on: August 24, 2015, 01:14:17 PM »

Royal Canin has recently increased their prices to almost $70 for a 15 lb bag and I cannot afford that.  Who do they think they are?
I was discussing it with my small pet food store and the girl recommended these two cat foods.  She said she has been feeding her cat the
Health Extension holistic, organic cat foor for 12 years and her cat is never sick.  It is a good price too.
She also recommended the two following foods.
Verus cat food and Health Extension holistic cat food,  (vet choice professional products)  any opinions on these 2 foods??  And of course she showed me  Origin, but Origin is far beyond my financial capabilities nowadays.  I used it years ago when it was priced reasonably, but now I could not touch it.

My cats still usually like my Life's Abundance, and whenever I do get a bag no one will eat (who knows why)  the company always sends me a free replacement bag, tho they claim they have investigated the date I claim no one will eat and say it is perfectly fine.

So   any opinions of the two new foods above.  I do wish the Origin was not so expensive.

 
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2015, 01:59:16 PM »

I've never used Health Extension , but have used Verus . I have used both cat & dog & know many people who use it with no problems .
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2015, 03:25:29 PM »

Leslie,  thank you so much for your prompt reply.  I will buy a medium sized bag of the Verus and see what my cats think of it.  they are happy with their LIfe's Abundance, but I like for them to have a 2nd cat food for variety's sake, and in case something goes wrong with their primary food, you never know nowadays.
I found some Origen on Chewy.com for a slightly cheaper price, but still high.  I may buy a bag to feed for a small amount each day, as a treat (if they actually like it, of course)  but I can't afford it for my primary dry food.  I wish I could get a sample bag to try before I pay for a big bag tho. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2015, 05:27:30 PM »

Our independent pet food & feed stores will all take back food & refund your money if it isn't well received . Have you asked where you are buying it if they do ?
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2015, 07:20:34 AM »

Leslie, no I have not asked them.  I do know that I return food to Petsmart all the time when almost all my cats refuse a batch of FF.  they are very good about that.
I will ask my small pet food store and see what they say,  but they are more expensive than Chewy, who seems to have the cheapest price at the moment.
I will go get a medium bag of the Verus today.   I am just using up my last of the Royal Canin today, so must do something. I give that mostly to my fat cats, tho I must say they have not lost any weight since using it, tho it is called LIGHT.  (of course everyone gets to eat it as well)
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2015, 10:39:50 AM »

My cats prefer the Health Extension to Verus.  I have some chunky cats, and prefer the Health Extension, because it has a bit more fiber, and more protein.

Where are you getting Royal Canin?  Chewy has RC Light for $41 for a 14 lb bag.  RC prices are high, IMO.
I believe they are replacing the Indoor Light 40 with just "Light" - and dropped the protein level.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2015, 01:04:19 PM »

Spartycats,  oh my, $41 isn't that bad!   Someone also said they had changed their ingredients and were using more byproducts while also increasing the price.   I got my last few bags at Chewy.com, but last I looked the other day it was much more than $41, it was in the $60's.  The last I looked on amazon today, it was $67.64 for a 15 lb bag of indoor 40.   I just looked and the first 3 ingredients are  chicken MEAL, then Corn meal, then corn .   I can get the chicken meal and lots of corn in Purina kibbles for much less.  I thought its ingredients were much better than that, but haven't looked in a long time.

I did just order the 15 lb bag of Origen for $62.99. And the ingredients are FAR superior to the Royal Canin Indoor 40!!  The main ingredients  are mostly ALL REAL MEAT! no grain!    I called them and they said I could return it for free if my cats won't eat it.   I can't pay that much all the time, but the big bag may last a while if I mostly give it to the older sicker cats, or as a treat to the others.  Higgs is so skinny, it may help him put on some weight.
I will go look again now at Chewy....  Ok, you are right, you cannot get the indoor light 40 now at all, and the Royal Canin light in a new bag is $38.75 for 14 lbs.  Actually, I am not surprised the price is lower than the last time I looked last week, I suspected that no one would pay almost $70 for something mostly corn. 

I am hoping that my cats will like the Origen.  Sometimes a better quality food lasts longer because they don't have to eat as much to be satisfied.    We will see. It should get here in the next few days.
AND  I will go buy some of the organic grain free Health Extension, to see if they like that;  that is a much better price.  I'm glad you like it!! 
I am happy to have several possibilities now.  I will also try a medium bag of the Verus grain free which Leslie has used.    Thank you so much.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2015, 05:22:44 PM »

Oops, I guess we are posting under dog food.

Just to clarify, I don't use the grain-free Health Extension (fish-based, salmon, I think).  I have used the regular one. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2015, 05:07:16 PM »

Spartycats, I didn't realize I was in dog food, sorry about that.
However, my Origin arrived today, and oh my. Chewy delivered that VERY quickly indeed!  They are an excellent company! 
 Sweetie and Winifred (blind winifred) started trying to eat it out of my hand before I got it to the dish!!  So that is a big HIT so far!!  Higgs ate it enthusiastically also, and he's so skinny, I hope it will help to fatten him up.  the others liked it too, so I am very pleased.  Since it arrived so quickly, I'll give more of that to them for the next few days before introducing the Health Extension or Verus kibbles.    I don't want to  introduce too many strange foods all at once.  I'll just give them the  regular Life's Abundance kibble and the Origen kibble along with their regular FF and Hill's AD.  Sweetie is still loving her Tiki Cat Bora Bora sardines in lobster consomme.   
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2015, 08:29:58 PM »

BW - I haven't use cat Orijen before but used it & the lower protein Acana for my dogs for years.  I stopped using it recently because they all drank tons of water shortly after eating a meal of it.  It seems to have high salt levels or something in it that makes them really thirsty.  A lot of people complained about it online and thought the protein was too high.  Not sure if the cat food will be the same, but if you notice excess drinking, it might be the food & not one of the health problems getting worse.  (sorry, off topic, but thought it might be important)
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2015, 09:32:22 AM »

Petslave, thank you for the update on the Origin.  the only difference I have noticed today, is that Sweetie seems to have lost her wonderful, voracious appetite!!  winifred also, and that is a big concern.
I have not given them any Origin today, and will not until I see them both start to eat a lot again.  I am also concerned that Sweetie may be a bit constipated which I cannot allow to happen with her intestinal mass.
I have not noticed them drinking a lot at all.  Usually she does drink quite a bit thank goodness. I can't have her getting dehydrated.  Am going to do their litter box now so I can keep track of her bm's today.  It's hard when you have 3 cats all using the same 2 boxes.

the sunroom and kitchen cats also have not eaten as much today so far, so I'll wait to give them more of the Origin.
I have read that with a higher quality food cats may not eat as much so we will see. I did not introduce it in a large quantity anyway, was being cautious, and now I'm glad.  I probably did give Sweetie and Winifred more than I would have since they tried to get it out of my hand before it reached the dish. 

Darn it all, I was so happy last night that I had a new high quality food that they loved and now I don't know what to think.  So I will be looking for  a BM of some kind from Sweetie now.  <sigh>
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2015, 09:40:49 AM »

Oh my, I just read this on a 2013 thread about Origin cat food by Andy, and it is bothersome!!

>>I also read that Champion's no longer "family-owned" btw......the 'old man' sold out to a hedge fund which now employs the two (reportedly feuding) son's of the owner!<<

He complains about formula changes etc.  but it is a couple years old.  I'm sorry the family owned company was sold to a hedge fund.  that's what happened to the Natura company that makes the EVO, and Proctor and Gamble bought it and promptly started having Salmonella problems and my pet food store just told me they are going to stop making evo, and most of the other foods now after having many problems.
Gee, I just found Origin, and believed all the hype on their home page, which andy said is all PR BS hype now.
Anyone know about this?
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2015, 05:12:32 PM »

BW - This thread is very old, too. But in case you have never heard about it, I'm posting the link.

http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/problems-with-orijen-in-australia-t6985.0.html

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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2015, 04:31:29 AM »

Although we don't use much dry, only as snacks, over the years some of what we have used has been Wysong dry cat food, they have a "geriatrix" formula. We've used Earthborn, also some Fromm's "gamebird" that was a big hit. I found a decent new brand sold at Whole Foods, too "Tender and True".Not sure who else sells it, but it is a big hit, too.

Wysong may still send free samples - they did years ago, I know Fromms had samples recently in pet stores.
It is good  to try before you buy, given the price of this stuff.
Cats are SO quirky  Tongue and my cats like what other people's don't and vice versa.
In the end it is really about what our little fussies are willing to eat (no matter what WE think).
Good luck.
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2015, 01:59:23 PM »

Well, I have this 15 lb bag of Origin that cost $62.99.  Everybody liked it when I gave them some the first day.  I haven't given anyone any more so far today.  Sweetie and everybody else is eating very well again, and she seems fine since I stopped giving it to her.
I will give some more to other cats in the sun room and see how they make out.  Higgs is still eating well, so I will give him some more too.  I will wait to give more to Sweetie, she has enough problems at the moment without experimenting on her with something I may have some doubts about.
The Australian Origin thread is really scary, but as you said Caylee, it is very old now, and thank goodness Mandy put in a post in that thread  that it was only a problem in Australia and never here, and that it was the radiation.  what all those cats went through was dreadful and nightmarish.  Still the people who used to own the company and did such a great job,  DID sell it....

I don't know what to think at the moment.  Doesn't seem that there have been any bad reports lately, IF SO, would someone let me know Please!

I will buy a smaller bag of the Verus, and the other one too, and see how the cats like those foods.  My Royal Canin is all gone now.
Yes, I did see a 14 lb bag in Petsmart for $47, but it is a different bag, new name, and I didn't bother to check the ingredients.
I honestly don't think that reformulations are ever anything except a way to include cheaper ingredients and increase a company's bottom line.    So I think since it is mostly corn, I will try the new Verus and the other one, can't think of it now.
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