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« on: August 05, 2008, 06:25:09 AM »

I live in Los Angeles, CA and fed both of my kitties Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice Dry Cat Food for their entire adult lives. During the last week of May 2008, I found some odd shaped pieces in the kibble bag that did not look anything like the triangular kibble. On June 6th, my 14 yr old persian kitty Shana died from unknown causes. Her kidney values were slightly elevated and an ultrasound revealed possible thickening of one of the chambers of the heart. According to the vet, neither of these were significant enough to kill her. Her blood values were not bad, but ultimately she filled up with so much fluid that she most likely had heart failure. I contacted Royal Canin and sent a sample to them for lab analysis, but it's been over 8 weeks and they refuse to provide me with updates.  I kept some as evidence. I have since switched my 5yt old maine coon mix Gunner to Science Diet Nature's Best Chicken and Brown Rice kibble. He loves it but his stools are no longer firm. I would love to hear recommendations on a better kibble. Thanks, Bonnie
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 06:28:28 AM »

welcome Bonnie, I don't have a recomendation for kibble but I do think that you are entitled to hear your food's test results and we have some here that can give you some ideas or a contact person to help with this! 

I am very sorry to hear of your loss of Shana... Sad

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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 06:31:00 AM »

Bonnie, I had bad experiences with Royal Canin and Science Diet. Not a big kibble fan so can't
recommend a brand for you. But if you go to truthaboutpetfood.com, you may get some
ideas. Watch out for continuing diarrhea and dehydration if it continues. I am also sorry you
lost your Shana, and think reading some of the cat food by experience threads here may give
some ideas on cat food.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 06:46:41 AM »

Bonnie, Im sorry for the loss of your Shana.  Alot of people are hesitant to "recommend" pet food because there are just no guarantees anymore but alot of people here have been using Wellness Core and I think Natures Variety with pretty good success.  Im sure some others will give some more ideas to try.  And there is this link for a thread here at Itchmo that has some more:  http://itchmoforums.com/your-problems-with-pet-food/what-dry-cat-food-do-you-feed-and-why-t3918.0.html

My experience about sending samples in to pet food companies was that they would not reveal specific results even though we had requested it.  For some reason they think when they get the food, that its theirs rather than yours.  All I can say to any PFC reading this, if you dont release the specific results for the test the pet parent is requesting, all it does it look very suspicious and one has to wonder what they might be hiding.   Don Earl at http://www.pfpsa.org/ could maybe help you get your food tested if you were interested. 

Anyhow welcome to Itchmo and I hope Gunner improves very soon, please keep us updated on how things go. 
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 07:01:28 AM »

Welcome to the forum.  Sorry to hear about the loss of Shana.  On of my cats has a slight heart wall thickening too, developed during the time she ate food that was later recalled.  The cardiologist said that some cats just develop her particular type as they age, or it can be caused by various other problems.  I hope you will find a food that will work for Gunner.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 07:20:18 AM »

Bonnie,

Very sorry that you lost your Shana. 

You might consider feeding several high quality canned foods, and use only a limited amount of kibble.

The list of ingredients to avoid is long, but, for starters, try to avoid grains and by-products.

IMHO, the foods already mentioned are good, as well as Orijen which is made in Canada.  There are other good ones, too.

Here're a couple of websites on homemade food.  Not everyone can do homemade, but these websites have some good info about cat nutrition.

http://www.catinfo.org/index.htm
http://www.catnutrition.org/index.php     

I was a Hill's Science Diet user for many years, but quit using this food due to high mortality in my cats.  Just one person's opinion, but I don't believe SD provides proper nutritive value - a bad situation over the long term. 

Any questions, just ask.  You'll get lots of help here.

Good luck to you in finding a quality food for your kitty.

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 07:42:42 AM »

I'm sorry to hear you lost your kitty.  {{{hugs}}}

If you haven't already done so, you might want to bring some stool samples to your vet for testing.

As far as loose stool, my cats have virtually had no loose stools since they have been on grain-free, corn-free food.  They currently eat wet, but when I first transitioned them they were all on grain-free kibble.  My cats do not do well with corn ingredients.  Two of my cats have inflammatory bowel.  They used to have loose stools, sometimes with blood and mucus in them.  They have never had that with the grain-free, corn-free foods they've been on for one year.  It was like turning off a light switch.  The crummy stools just stopped.

Plus with the grain-free, corn-free foods, you don't have to feed as much, so the cost is not much different when you look at it that way.  They are getting more protein from meat sources, IMO.  At least try to find somewith without any corn, corn meal, corn gluten.  Mine do get occasional wet with rice with no problems, but we use organic rice foods. 

Please keep us posted on how she does.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 07:49:12 AM »

Welcome Bonnie, I am sorry you lost Shana and glad Gunner seems to be okay. A lot of us here have sent food into pf co's and never heard back,if you want to know whats wrong with it you will need to test it yourself. Don Earl has helped many of us with that . Most of us have gone to as much wet food as possible,canned,homemade & raw. The kibbles mentioned seem ok as well as Natures Logic,but read the brand by experience threads to be sure. Hope Gunner continues to improve and you find answers about Shana.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 12:37:47 PM »

Welcome, Bonnie. I am sorry you lost your Shana. I'm glad Gunner is doing OK, and I hope you can find a food that will help with the soft stool problems. Everyone has already posted good ideas on kibble, so let us know how things progress.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 06:13:35 AM »

Hi Bonnie:  So sorry to hear about your cat.  It is always a sad situation to deal with.  I have used Royal Canin in the past with terrible results.  Constant runny stools....my Maine Coons do not tolerate corn at all.  For about the last 16 months we have been using Eagle Pack Holistic Chicken Meal and Rice for kibble and Ziwi Peak venison for canned.....and the cats are thriving.  Good luck in finding a food that works for you...and also in finding the results from Royal Canin.  I know I did HOURS of research during this whole pet food thing....and am happy with the food we did switch too.
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