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Author Topic: Orijen catfood, a Champion company, were there recalls in 2007 and lately?  (Read 7869 times)
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« on: October 28, 2015, 02:32:48 PM »

I have recently begun buying Orijen dry cat and kitten food.  the ingredients sound just wonderful!!
I'm on my 3rd big bag, and the cats love it.  I just tried to call them, and their number is answered by Champion foods!!!  This rings a big bell!!  Didn't Champion foods have lots of awful recalls during the pet food debacle??  OR am I thinking of something else??  Is there a Diamond foods that had so many recalls??, (this just entered my head from out of nowhere!)

It's been a long time, but now as I type, I am beginning to think it wasn't Champion, it was DIAMOND!
Is there such a company as Diamond??  My old brain is becoming useless.   If it was indeed Diamond, I don't know why I thought it was Champion.  Please help me recall correctly before I spend any more money on the Orijen food.
I have been so happy to have found it with all its wonderful ingredients, and I have been trying to replace the LIfe's Abundance dry food which my cats no longer seem to want to eat lately.  The LA does not seem to be consistent, every time I get 2 big bags, they reject one of them, and needless to say, I can't afford that.  Sometimes they send me a free replacement bag, but I have to pay shipping to return the unused one. AND that is a pain in the neck as well.

Sooo, I am hoping that Diamond is  the company that has had so many problems.
Thanks ahead of time.
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 03:36:05 PM »

Diamond had problems in 2007 & more recently. Champion is the company that killed & injured so many cats & small dogs in Australia .
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 05:03:20 PM »

Here is the long thread about  Australia and Orijen

http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/problems-with-orijen-in-australia-t6985.0.html
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 10:04:13 PM »

Actually, Champion did NOT kill any pets in Australia.  The food was irradiated in Australia due to import laws in the country.  That had nothing at all to do with Champion, the company that made the food.  The government of Australia was responsible for the sad effects that the irradiated food had on the cats, and it is not fair to say that Champion killed any animals.  Orijen is a good food and I think it can be used without any worry.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 04:18:16 AM »

You are correct . I should have said they were the company involved. However they were aware the food was going to be irradiated & their response afterwards to veterinarians as well as pet owners was extremely poor . IMO that has a bearing on whether I will use their food or not . Anyone can have a problem with food production , how they handle it is important to me .
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 03:58:37 PM »

I used Orijen for all my cats until I discovered that Linley was allergic to the high fish content. Later, I used Acana (another Champion food) just for Isis for a time, when she was diagnosed hyperthyroid and was too thin, to put weight back on her. My cats loved it and thrived on it. I think there was an inexcusable lack of communication between Origen and the Australian government in the disaster that happened there, but I don't think Orijen is a bad food (as long as it's not irradiated by importers somewhere!)
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2015, 08:00:39 AM »

Thank you all so much.  Yes,  I recall the Australian disaster, and yes, Mandy, I had heard that it was the irradiation that really caused the problem.
Now I recall more specifically that even my little petfood store told me they had stopped getting Diamond food because of all their problems.

I have heard of the Acana, but never tried it.  I like to have two dry foods for my cats, and now since I have stopped my Life's Abundance, I tried the Health Extension which they liked till I started the Orijen, and now they are not eating the Health Extension.  Perhaps I could try the Acana as a 2nd dry food.  I know I have heard it mentioned here, but can't recall what the specifics about it were.  Were there any recalls at all of the Acana?? Catbird you said you used it for a time, and your cats loved it, and thrived on it,  so may I ask why you stopped using it??
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2015, 08:52:27 AM »

Acana is the lower protein / lower price line of food put out by Champion, with Orijen being higher protein/cost.  I used Acana for the dogs & they did well on it other than that incessant thirst problem, which worried me & made me stop using it.  Coats, weights, poop, energy were all good.

Recalls since their foods have started being sold in the US have from what I've seen were only too much salmon bone in the fish lines of dry food, and the Australia thing.

I followed the Australia issue very closely since I had just started feeding the food at that time.  They did know it was to be irradiated but I don't they understood the level that would be used, & no one realized those odd foil bags they pack in (which felt a little like lead to me) would play a big part in causing the changes in the food.  At first they enthusiastically said they would help, pay vet bills, etc, but I'm sure once they realized the extent of what happened & consulted lawyers, accountants, etc they had to / were told to back off.  I saw that happen in their responses over time to the Aussie cat owners - yes we'll help, we'll help a limited amount, silence. 

They aren't a perfect pet food company.  None are.  You just have to weigh the bad/good side and go with that.  I absolutely would not use any Diamond product.  I would still use Champion products if they worked for the pet I was feeding.   Always with a constant close eye on what they are doing, any recalls or bad press, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 04:57:46 PM »

I stopped using the Orijen because of the high fish content--Linley is violently allergic to fish, and one crumb would send him into an itching frenzy and turn my mild-mannered catboy into a meanie. (There is literally only 1 dry cat food he can eat, and it's been discontinued--California Natural chicken and brown rice.) I also noted the thirst factor, and since Phantom is nearly 20 years old and has mild CRF, I'm not sure that would be good for her now. So at present, only Cara could eat it, and so I don't buy any.

I lost Isis to a stroke when she was 16, so no need to buy Acana after that.  Cry (It also has fish, but I fed Isis in a separate area where Linley could not get at it.)
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2015, 09:47:39 AM »

Thank you so much Petslave, and Catbird.  I went online and was reading some scary reviews from customers of the Acana, and I can't afford to pay any more vet bills than I already am in order to experiment with it, not to mention not wanting to make any more of my cats sick, tho of course those situations could be exceptions, who knows.

So at the moment, I'm just using the Orijen which so far everyone likes.  I do want a 2nd dry food tho. I'm giving Purina Naturals original to some as a treat, but it is mostly corn like all purina products, and makes them really fat too, so only as a treat.

They simply will not eat any more of the life's abundance, who knows why, so I'm not buying that any more.
they also stopped eating the new Life Extension, which they seemed to like before I gave them the Orijen, and now that just sits there, so I'm going to return the new 15 lb unopened bag I bought.

Sooo, back to the drawing board.  BTW, Petslave, were you the person who used to feed the Life's Abundance and liked it???  Someone was, and I forget who.  If it was you, do you still get it or???
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2015, 08:05:48 PM »

What were they saying about acana on the other sites, BW?  I'd be interested in reading those.  The acana line isn't much different than the orijen line, just a little more carbs & a little less protein.  Not sure why that one would be bad & the other good, but I never tried the cat food. 

I think it was Spartycats that used LA.  I never tried it.  I quit feeding dry food after the 07 recalls.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2015, 06:08:51 PM »

I have used Acana lately (buy one get one sample bags at my pet food store) and except for the pea protein, I really liked it.  The cats love it, and I saw no ill effects.  I just have to keep Bella out of it (pea allergy).
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2015, 03:42:03 AM »

Sammy likes Acana line of dry food and I like getting small bags it comes in.
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