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Sphynx
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« on: July 27, 2009, 05:01:10 AM »

This weekend (July 25 2009) I stopped at my local pet food store to get my regular 10 lb bag of Natural Balance Green Pea & Duck dry formula for my three sphynx cats.  Two of my sphynx have food allergies that caused me (and them) A LOT of problems and a lot of $ about two years ago.  My vet finally recommended green pea and duck.  After doing online research, I read a lot of positive customer reviews of NB green pea and duck that fixed many other cat owners food allergy problems.  I switched my cats to this product and it was the magical cure that fixed their problems! 

About 4 - 6 weeks ago, my cats started to vomit again, several times a day.  At or around the same time, I noticed the kibbles were a different shape and color.  I didn't put 2 and 2 together until this past weekend when I stopped to get more food that the pet store (Chuck & Don's in Eagan, Minnesota) told me they have received a number of complaints from customers that the formula changed in this product without any notice to them (Chuck & Don's) or any obvious notices on the NB green pea and duck packaging.  The clerk at the store told me the main ingredients changed because the primary ingredients in the old formula were too expensive to continue making.  She told me she was surprised that no one in her company knew the product changed because when other products have changed, they are usually notified by the manufacturer about the changes...not in this case though.

Has anyone else noticed any changes in their food or problems with their cats in the last month or two that eat this food exclusively? 

On a side note, my third sphynx that doesn't have any food problems, has been eating this for the same time my other sphynx have been eating it.  This sphynx is the healthiest of the three and I have never seen her vomit in the years I have had her.  A few weeks ago, she started throwing up.  In all three sphynx, the NB GP&D kibbles are partially digested and all have been avoiding this food lately.

Please contact me if you know anything about this or if your cats are having problems again

Thanks
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Spartycats
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 05:29:18 AM »

Welcome, Sphynx,

Thanks for sharing this information.  I don't use this food, so can't offer experience about this change.
I can provide some info from their website (they seem a little confused about cats and dogs in 3rd paragraph):

"We have recently improved our Green Pea& Duck Formula by adding more fresh duck and pea protein. This improvement enhances the performance of the product, but may lighten the kibble color. This change was made because we have found it increasingly difficult to obtain the quality and quantity of duck meal that our rigorous standards require, therefore we have elected to remove this ingredient. We have been feeding this formula for the last six months to many of our own Natural Balance pets and it has produced exceptional results.

When starting on this new formula, the change should be made gradually, by replacing the current food with increasing portions of Natural Balance® L.I.D. Limited Ingredient Diets® Green Pea & Duck New & Improved formula. The change should be completed after 5 to 7 days.

A very small percentage of cats with sensitive stomachs may experience a temporary digestive upset with the formulation change to the Green Pea & Duck Formula. For this limited number of dogs, we recommend feeding smaller, more frequent meals, combined with the old formula (if available), over a 5 to 7 day period to adjust to the new formula."


http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/catformulas/DuckCat.html

New ingredients:
Peas, Duck, Pea Protein, Canola Oil, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Methionine, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols, Zinc Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid.

Old ingredients:
Peas, Duck Meal, Duck, Canola Oil, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Methionine, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Zinc Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid (Vitamin B)

I don't know about availability, but my guess would be that duck meal is more expensive than pea protein.

I hope that you can find a food your kitties can eat!  It's very frustrating when a food is working (especially for allergies), and then its ingredients change.


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Spartycats
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 05:52:28 AM »

These are the ingredients in the "therapeutic" brands, just fyi.

ROYAL CANIN Veterinary Diet® feline GREEN PEAS & DUCK FORMULA™ dry
Ground pea, duck by-product meal, pea protein, coprah oil, natural flavors, duck, anchovy oil (source of EPA/DHA), calcium sulfate, soya oil, sodium bisulfate, monocalcium phosphate, DL-methionine, salt, taurine, choline chloride, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), D-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], rosemary extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E) and citric acid.


Hill's Prescription D/D:
Pea Protein Concentrate, Duck, Pea Bran Meal, Ground Green Peas, Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Duck Meal, Soybean Oil, Calcium Sulfate, Natural Flavor, Fish Oil, Choline Chloride, DL-Methionine, Iodized Salt, L-Cysteine, Taurine, Dicalcium Phosphate, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Potassium Sulfate, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, Citric Acid and Ethoxyquin, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.    
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 01:54:02 PM »

Jasper and Pey'j say YUCKYUCKYUCKYUCK.

There's a reason it's called Green Pea and Duck, not Duck and Green Pea.

For the record, Nature's Variety Instinct has a Turkey and Duck in the works.  Also, Natural Balance is working on a Chicken allergy formula as well as a Salmon allergy formula.  Have you tried the Orijen 6 Fish?  I'm not big on the high fish content, but aside from the potato there's really no other ingredients.  LID's for cats are a tough one...

Of course, you could always use something like Wellness 95% duck and add your own ingredients... not ideal, but certainly better than the present situation.

Incidentally, we had TWO people return the NB P&D dog this week - made their dog's sick.  Last week, someone came in and cleaned us out of the old formula.  Don't they understand you can't screw around with allergy diets this way???!
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2009, 10:37:24 PM »

Hills prescription has Ethoxyquin in it? Isn't this a no no for people wishing to avoid it in the pet foods?

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2009, 11:51:52 AM »

Just wanted to mention that we have had complaints regarding the new formulas... two clients trying to find out where to find the old formula, new mix has caused reactions.  This was the potato and duck dog, not the green pea and duck cat, but so far the feedback has not been positive (we don't have the new lots of cat in yet, so results for cat are yet to be seen).

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