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Angels Mama & Katy Mom Of 1
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« on: August 18, 2009, 08:39:45 PM »

I don't understand Baby! I was petting her telling her she was a good girl and trying to bond with her & she lashed out & scratched side of my head (no blood drawn but still!) out of the blue! She had done this the other night but I had given her cat nip and thought that was why! Now I don't know & I am beginning to wonder about her! I've never seen a cat react to me this way! I naturally usually have no troubles with animals they usually pull towards me when being walked! I don't know what to do it's so strange because its out of the blue & im shocked that it happened again!
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 08:56:19 PM »

Our Red Tabby Girl Snugs did this almost her entire life.  She was a total sweetheart and unconditional friend in every way, but had very strict and exacting limits, and would swat if she just wasn't in the mood to be touched at the time.

We figured it all out at one point but I still got my fair share of swats for 19 years.   Cheesy  

Always without fail when I tried to pet her when she didn't want to be pet.  Or sometimes just to see if I would get swat!  Grin  And then she'd really let me have it!  Once, twice, or three times if required to get the message across.

Come to think of it she did swat me on the nose a couple times during the learning process.  Smiley  And boy was she accurate!

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 09:06:35 PM »

Steve Thank you for your reply this is something i'll have to adjust to! I'm just so used to loving pets that like attention & love & it's so foreign.How does a person know when a cat is about to go from playing to serious attacking when playing around as I get concerned that they will hurt each other. Thank You angelkatie&momof3
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 09:09:19 PM »

Sorry Baby scratched you again.  Some cats get a little over-stimulated during a long petting session and they will suddenly swat at the one petting them.  It's not personal.  Sometimes they will give clues such as swishing of the tail.  Maybe it could be an immature nervous system in Baby's case since she is so young.  Maybe this will be a behaviour that will calm down after she is spayed or as she gets older.  Have patience and keep the petting sessions a little shorter for now.  In time you will probably be able to read her body language to know when she has had enough.    
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 09:11:02 PM »

Cats vary greatly in the amount of petting they will accept. Some have a very low threshhold before becoming overstimulated and scratching or biting. Here is an article on many aspects of petting related aggression.

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2174&aid=3048

Several other articles I have read recommend petting a cat for very short periods of time. I would think that in a boisterous young kitten, this would be more likely to occur than with a settled older cat. But some seniors don't care for long petting sessions, either.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 09:13:28 PM »

Well if Baby is Maine Coon or part Maine Coon like my Sophers....all I can say is look-out!  Disclaimer: not all Maine Coons are like that LOL  My Sophers was....errrr..is...that way too.  Im thinking that in time, probably sooner than later, you will learn what the signals to back-off are, I did...after learning the hard way, cat pulling my hair, cat jumping on my back, cat hanging off my arm, cat chomping my leg....I could go on and on, LOL   Sophers is two now and is just starting to calm down so Im thinking that is the juvie stage Baby is going through and I think in time things will calm down.... Grin  Its best to buy that suit of armor now... Wink
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 09:26:41 PM »

Thank you all for your replies.I'll just have to watch for the signs & Thank you so much catwoods for the link so helpful.Sandi K I know Rusty isn't like that he's such a sweetie.Ouch ill avoid all that ty LOL Got an links for that armor LOL Thank You Everyone! angelkatie&momof3
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 09:33:28 PM »

When ours would get into roughhousing with each other I would just break it up if it got a little to rough. That sets the tone and they seem to get the message. Kind of like referee duty. Cats get distracted easily and move on to the next thing. What was funny though was Snugs on occasion liked to hide outside the bathroom door when Pose our boy cat was using the litter box then when he came out she would pounce on him and run off, lay down, then wash her paws as if nothing happened. Cheesy

Snugs was Queen of the house. Her sister was passive and if Pose got pushy with her Snugs would intervene on her behalf.

Despite these things they were pure joy, they did love each other, and we miss them dearly.

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 06:19:21 AM »

Sorry to hear that you got scratched!  I agree that the most common reason for this behavior is overstimulation from petting.  Other reasons that I have encountered are

  • hyperesthesia syndrome (you can Google this, and it's also been discussed elsewhere on the forum)
  • various sensitivities including the spinal sensitivity sometimes seen in Manx
  • little sore places, such as a vaccination site
  • past history--I've seen this kind of behavior in cats who were around small children earlier in their lives, children who may not have been as respectful as they should have been, or with cats who were abused at some time in their past
  • dominant personality--she is trying to establish that she is the "top cat" even over you

You and Baby are still in the early stages of getting to know each other.  It doesn't mean that she doesn't like you, or that the behavior will continue.  I agree with what others have said; you will soon learn to read her signs to avoid being scratched, and if you can figure out why she does it, avoid whatever is the trigger.  I also agree that it's likely to decrease as she matures.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 06:38:18 AM »

And I've learned to keep their nails short!  Both Dunkin and Annie have learned to retract their nails -- but Macushla gets me every time!! Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 07:20:38 AM »

Oh something just occurred to me. Maybe try your feet at some future time.  

Sash, has a very short tolerance for hand petting but he just loves being pet with feet.  I don't know what his thing is with feet but he'll lay down and go limp and I'll just foot massage him all over and he can't get enough it!  

Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2009, 10:17:37 AM »

Oh something just occurred to me. Maybe try your feet at some future time.  

Sash, has a very short tolerance for hand petting but he just loves being pet with feet.  I don't know what his thing is with feet but he'll lay down and go limp and I'll just foot massage him all over and he can't get enough it!  

Cheesy

... I'd suggest you have thick socks on just in case you get the opposite reaction!  Cheesy  Most of mine think a foot makes a great substitute toy; they like to grab on and pounce!  Grin

This is very much a settling in time and learning experience for all of you. Once you've had time to sort out their individual idiosyncrasies you'll be able to enjoy all of them each to their own fashion. That's part of the fun of a multi-cat household - no two are alike.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2009, 11:04:51 AM »

... I'd suggest you have thick socks on just in case you get the opposite reaction! 

No problem there he loves the feel of socks on feet best.   Wink
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 12:01:52 PM »

We are getting along much better now that I understand ty all for your help.I have been scratching her head and petting just a few times & watching her tail.Also she's given me kitty kisses  Kiss
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2009, 03:17:17 PM »

Maybe it's in the name, my girl, Baby does the same thing.  I have learned over the years to look for her warning signs, usually a different flicking of her tail and she just starts tensing up just one to two strokes before she lashes at you.  I still on occassion get bit or swatted from her for no apparent reason, but I usually can "defuse" her by whistling to her, which she loves and makes her all lovely-dovey.  I figured it must be music to calm the savage beast??? Undecided  She's just a silly kitty with her own quirks, one minute the sweetest cat on earth, the next, a she-devil!
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